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Discussion about the ACI F4 Illustrator paintball gun, ACI Griffin, and of paintball in general. Check the F4OG FAQ before posting a question here (there may be an answer for your question). Other non-paintball topics should be taken to the General Discussion Forum.


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  • Phay Frames for F4 -- Scott, 23:15:06 12/25/02 Wed (63.188.144.39)
    Does anyone have any info regarding electronic frames for the F4's? I would like to look into them if they are available.

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  • Question regarding an F4 -- Shannon, 22:25:33 01/05/03 Sun (12.76.226.253)
    I just bought an F4 and when I was field stripping it, I took the bolt out and where the ball retaining spring hits the bolt it put a pretty good scratch in it. Is that common? The gun shoots great and have had no problems. Thanks.

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  • Barrel/Reservoir Plug Issues -- Xander, 20:05:51 01/04/03 Sat (207.5.144.151)
    I just bought a Thunder Pig 14" Barrel for my F4. Apon starting to screw it in, I found it would not go in all the way, because the reservor plug is a hair to big. If I take the reservor plug out, the barrel fits fine, but I cant screw the plug back in. Is there any way I can get around this problem? such as maybe a smaller reservor plug, if there is such a thing. I'd really like to use this barrel. thanks for any input.

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  • 99 f4 sear -- Greg, 17:52:43 12/28/02 Sat (209.83.144.100)
    hello. does anyone know where online i can get a sear for my 99 f4?

    thank you

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  • HAPPY NEW PAINTBALL YEAR -- Matt, 00:52:09 01/02/03 Thu (24.67.253.203)
    Just wanting to wish everyone a happy new year and an excellent new year in paintball!

    All the way from Kelowna BC Canada!

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  • vapor valve -- arch, 18:20:59 12/22/02 Sun (205.188.209.74)
    hey can any one tell me about the vapor valve and who makes it for autocockers? also whare can i get it off the internet? if u can awnser my q's email the awnsers to arch88drew@aol.com thanks.

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  • Getting an Impulse -- Kristopher Lentz, 16:45:37 12/28/02 Sat (24.216.229.234)
    I'm getting an Impulse from FerreT. He's posted a pic of his impulse on here. With money that i have (140) i know i need to get an N2 tank. But i'm debating between other stuff i want to upgrade. I'm thinking of getting a tapeworm to make it more consistent. And then i'm debating between either a blade trigger or a delrin bolt. I'm thinking of going with the bolt and then just use the stock trigger and then do a trigger mod. Please help and give suggestions.

    Thanks

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  • PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT -- Nico, 21:51:26 12/12/02 Thu (216.228.4.73)
    Hey yall i would like to take this time to do a PSA, and i would like yall to help me out. It might get all artsy fartsy. Its obvious this f4 board is temming with people from all walks of life with a common bond: the love of paintball. The question arises ever so often, what makes a good paintball player? I belive the question oughta be What can we/you do to make yourself/ourselves a better player. I wanna get at least 5 ways from yall, be it equipment tips, playing techniques, tactics, philosophies or beliefs to make ourselves (or the pball community in general) better as players. Long or short tips, any info will do. My hope is when Mark gets well enough, he can compille this stuff and put it under a category to share with the community. I guess ill start 1st with some of the more obvious "things "we can do.

    1)Play often as you can. Financial difffulties? get a/a better job. Go as a group and split the cost. Or save up and play more conservative with your shots while focusing on movement rather than volume of fire. This will help define your playing style, and helps tailors your financial situation.

    2) Observe games when u can. Sometimes sitting out one or two games for a breather can lead to a tacticaly/strategicaly rewarding experience. Get a bird's eye or overhead view of the terrain u play on. Ref a game if ya can.

    3)Help a newbie. Help a newb, especially the younger ones, out in regards to safety regulations, or playing techniques or lay some positive encouragement. The field i play is teeming with newbs that need constant reminding not to be intimdated by a players equipment. Aint nothin cooler than whatchin' a humble noob with a rental gun surreder a jerk ass vet and thanking you after the game for the advice.

    4)Communicate. Before a game starts gather up your walk-ons/teamates and formulate a SIMPLE plan. Call out positions and keep up the chatter on the field. You ll be surprised how the herding mentatilty/behaiviour can work to the team advantage/disadvantage. Breif and de-breif a game.

    5)Be prepared. Come to the field prepared. Bring a squeege X-tra O rings, tubes, whatever. Pballing is a great means of teaching one responsibility, preparedsness and self-reliance.

    6)Be safe. Be polite and remind folks to have the safety on and/or Barrell plugs in. Gogles too, wear em at the chrono station! Dont be Nazi about it just remind em your vision is waay more valuble than their convenience.

    anyway these are some of the ideas i can contibute. Help the F4OG and other Pballers some of your ideas. Thnx for your time!

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  • I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- Nico, 02:53:23 11/18/02 Mon (216.228.4.49)
    I would like to see a company make a fully auto/burst fire capable gun that is fully mechanical, ie no batteries or solenoids to trip of. An mp5 trigger group would be cool, single, triple, full, safe whatever. If there is a candidate company that can do it Worr oughta, or maybe WGP or AGD maybe even Benchmark. Anyhow heres my million dollar idea that should of been done by now.

    I would like to see paintball prices drop by $10

    oh yeah and world peace too lol

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  • '01 F4 and gear for sale -- Tim, 23:55:58 12/22/02 Sun (216.127.255.252)
    I havnt played paintball in nearly a year and have decided that i should sell my gear and spend the money in a better way (computer gear).

    The gun it's self is near perfect. Due to a faulty venturi bolt ACI gave me a new body, and i have only played 4 or 5 times with the new body. I also went through a stage with the dremel to the valve...needless to say the valve is as new as the body because i had to order a new one.

    So it has a new body and a new valve, and a new sear (that was put on by ACI for free, they said the old one wore down). And like i said all of that has only been used a few times. The two bolts however are since '01 but they are as good as new...(Gotta love that ACI tech.) The barrel is stock and the paint is sanded off so that it fades to black (i got bored...again). Nothing on the inside of the barrel was touched. So the only real problem with the gun is the trigger, i had to trim it to get a double trigger frame on it (which is still on). This was before ACI released the double trigger frame.

    It is an TP so it has a low pressure chamber. however i traded a friend of mine for an expansion chamber...he was running n02 and didnt have the need for it (he got the grip i got the chamber).

    I also have a 12v revolution, elbow etc. 20 oz C02 thank and a JT spectra with a clear thermal lens.

    If your interested or have any questions email me at timspeciale@timmyqwest.com

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  • Venturi Bolts? -- Rodrigo, 21:12:20 12/17/02 Tue (209.178.188.105)
    hey guys i was wondering if aftermarket F4 venturi bolts will work with my griffin because my stock bolt is pretty crapy thanks guys

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  • Slide Check -- DaRaptor, 03:14:34 12/15/02 Sun (128.187.0.166)
    I just bought a Bulldog 2 88/4500 preset system for dirt cheap, so I'm excited to get it in the mail later this week =)

    Anyway, my question is about slide check valves. I know they're supposed to shut off the gas to the marker and bleed the excess so you can disconnect stuff... But for the life of me, I can't figure out how they work, or how they should be set up (which side to put to the marker/air supply, etc) and do they actually shut off the gas like a valve, or will they bleed the whole line from the cup seal to the on/off at the tank? I think the F4OG should have a diagram of a slide check setup and a little brief about their operation and use. Someone should write that up and send it to Mark to add to our already wonderful techroom section.

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  • bb paintballs -- CRAIG, 15:14:11 12/12/02 Thu (24.46.58.121)
    can you use 6mm bb paintballs in springpowered rifles. if you can can you use it when you go paintballing.

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  • problems finding a suitable double trigger -- cereal killer, 14:11:28 12/04/02 Wed (66.26.6.217)
    I have searched and searched for suitable triggers for my original F4 with its thru bolt design trigger assembly I want to go to a double trigger 45 grip but so far roadrunner myself and a fleet of my teammates can't find one I sent a message to ACI's tech reps and get shit for answers I was turned onto this sight by the original owner of the gun and he had no luck finding a double 45 trigger frame for the F4 when he had it either. I think between myself and my team we have logged over 1000 hours trying to find one but no luck the only thing I can find are the 2 screw application trigger frames for the 99 F4

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  • Speaking of Laser Sights -- Imants, 13:41:35 12/13/02 Fri (67.105.193.172)
    With so many to choose from can anyone recommned a better of the cheap laser sights Adco imp, hot shot or NC Star?

    They all seem to be in the same price range. Or is there a higher end one I should invest in? Thanks again.

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  • Hey hey ... Just stoped by to see whats up in the F-4 world -- Ken W, 21:13:21 12/11/02 Wed (152.163.189.97)
    Just stoped by to see what new.. I have had some nice customers and worked on some new stuff. We just did a Impulse. Milled and added a Z frame to it.. Will be up for sale as soon as it comes back from Ano. Oh yeah I still got something I'm working on for the F-4 people...

    Ken W
    www.kpcustoms.net

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  • what do i need for nitro/ compressed air -- eric, 02:03:18 12/08/02 Sun (24.217.128.186)
    i own the f4 and all i have done is a but on a 32 6-stage expansion chamber. I want to my a nitro tank and was wondering if i can hook it straight up or do i need to buy anything for it to work? thanks eric

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  • Just got a Palmer Reg. Some thech Qs. -- Nico, 05:55:09 11/30/02 Sat (216.228.4.36)
    Anyone here have any need to know tips on how to work with it? and maintaining it (cleaning schedule/overhaul)? I got the adjustment and setting "right" (i dont have a guage) the guns not starved for air im guessing 800 to 750 psi. its a matter of chrononing the thing to get set at an fps.

    What is an optimal PSI setting for the reg on an f4?

    Apparently the reg needs about a 2000-3000 shot cycle to get the internal broken in and set.

    What kind of FPS deviation should i xpect from it? +/- wise, when its all good to go? Im running CO2 with a 12" Lapco Bigshot. Maybe someone here has the same setup?

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  • Just so you know... -- Mark, 11:55:51 12/03/02 Tue (205.174.22.21)
    I'll be "out of touch" for awhile due to surgery. I go under the knife Dec. 5.

    The doctor says, "No computer for most of December", but he doesn't know about my laptop!

    I have a busted disc in my neck (C5/6) and I'm getting that removed and replaced by a screw. See http://www.spinetech.com/products/bakc.html. Free advice #1: Do NOT spend 16 hours each day for 20 years in front of a computer, no matter how much you like Duke Nukem. Otherwise you'll become an old fart with a bum neck.

    So I'll only be stopping by from time to time, and I won't be answering emails for at least a week. And if I don't follow the doctor's orders my wife has promised to kill me. Free advice #2: Carefully evaluate your future spouse's weapon accuracy BEFORE walking down that aisle.

    So here's an early Merry Christmas and a Happy Hanukkah. Remember that it's winter: watch those CO2 velocities, and frozen paintballs. And free advice #3: Never pretend to be a 'tough guy who feels no pain' in a hospital - demand the narcotics.

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  • 2000 AutoCocker -- The Scorpion, 04:39:59 11/30/02 Sat (209.240.198.63)
    I have a question , One of my friends has a 2000 H/R Autococker for sale he has only shot about 1,500 rounds through the marker and it has no scratches basicly brand new , he is selling it since he joined the fire dept and really never has time to play and needs the money for the bills , what is the marker worth? I want to give him the full value of the marker but it is used and its an old mod ! Help please! WHAT IS IT WORTH?

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  • does anybody ... -- Rodrigo, 02:56:58 11/24/02 Sun (209.179.40.76)
    know how and where i can get the ACI double trigger frame and how much it costs. i live in california and checked the shop but they did not have it. i was wondering if i could get from ACI.

    thanks

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  • Kapp Tear Drop Forward and F4 ASA. Decent antisiphon setup? -- Nico, 03:09:08 12/09/02 Mon (216.228.4.166)
    Hey yall. i was wondering other than getting an anti siphon co setup, running vertical helps prevent co siphonng right? Ok. A Kapp tear drop forward seems to have a set angle of 15 to 12 degree. The 99 F4 asa is 12. Will the Kapp DF coupled with F4 ASA set the tank "vertical" or angled enuff to prevent CO siphoning? Does anyone here has this setup? how does it balance the gun? how was the velocity consistency?

    Thnx for your time

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  • hg -- hj, 20:28:32 12/04/02 Wed (198.81.26.204)
    yo im wang

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  • Trigger Springs -- Imants, 23:45:03 12/01/02 Sun (12.228.43.175)
    Ok, after all the good advice so far I can't help but ask yet another question. Now that I've got the sight rail back on, I've moved on to the trigger. It seems to have a really heavy pull on it and I'm trying to figure out how to loosen it up. I put in a lighter spring but it seems a bit on the short side so that it kind of clicks when I fire. Is there a spring someone can recommend, or a size? And where might one find such a spring? Is there anything else I can do to get a lighter trigger pull?
    Thanks again.

    -Imants

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  • Removing "the ridge" -- Bill, 09:34:34 11/27/02 Wed (64.254.208.79)
    I have read in a few posts that there are instructions for removing the tipmann ridge in barrels, but have searched the website numerous times, and cant seem to find it. Do they exist? And if so, where are the instructions?
    Thanks in advance

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  • Sight Rail -- The Captain, 00:29:02 11/27/02 Wed (12.228.43.175)

    OK. I bought Alf Hanz's F4 last week (pictured under member's photos) via the trading post. I figured with all the additional parts and the barrel $150 for a well maintained used gun was a better deal than a new F4 stock. I took it out saturday and sunday and it shot wonderfully i would say, even with my horrible playing, I still managed to get some tags and the accuracy was a nice suprise. It was fun having guys walk up with obviously way more expensive guns and inquire about mine.
    Other than having to have a guy help me replace the sear (with one Alf included when he shipped the gun) and the double trigger piece actually falling off in one of my first games (currently in the proccess of being thread locked on) I experienced no problems whatsoever over the course of the weekend of play. Only one ball broken in the barrel, and none in the chamber, and fairly consistent velocity given I'm in Seattle and using Co2.
    So needless to say I am very happy with my new(used)gun. The only real trouble is that in tinkering with the thing (I just had to take it apart) I removed the sight rail, a piece which I recently, through reading the manual, realized was not meant to be tinkered with other than by 'certified airsmiths'. oops. So now the front healy spring is out and I need to put it back in...
    I was told that a kit to insert this can be purchased from the hardware store, but is there anything I should watch out for? I mean, why does one have to be an airsmith to do this?
    Also, where can i get another replacement sear and o-rings just to have on hand?
    Thanks again for yer help all.
    -Imants/ The Captain

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  • just wanted to say happy Thanksgiving to everyone -- Russ, 16:38:01 11/28/02 Thu (4.46.43.236)
    yes i know this is not paintball related but have a great day anyway

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  • Nico and his damn BARREL ADAPTER questions -- Nico, 16:17:02 11/25/02 Mon (216.228.25.102)
    Anyway, Lapco makes a Prolite to M98 barrel adaptor. Does this adaptor have that "ridge" or is it sloped like the Bigshot Prolite/f4/A5 barrel. Anyone know? or am i gonna be the one to buy and tell? In any case its unfortunate that aci has "niched" its market by not makin barrell adapters or giving the new f4's more popular barrel threading.

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  • ANYONE FROM INDIANA? -- Impulse, 00:56:08 11/23/02 Sat (66.72.39.123)
    Anyone from Indiana visit this site. I'm from Bloomington, just looking for players.

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  • Filling Stations -- The Captain, 17:46:34 11/20/02 Wed (67.105.193.172)

    I'm just getting into paintball and I just have to thank Mark and Mav and anyone else who helps make this page what it is. I bought an F4 from a guy on the trading post (its in the mail) and I'm getting a bunch of buddies to buy f4's as well. I have played with them years ago, but I was only borrowing. The reliability and quality was a big factor, but then I came to this site and read how happy everyone here is about their f4 and all the info available and it was a done deal.

    My question relates to filling tanks. What is the cheapest method of constructing a fill station? I am familiar with dive tanks. My dad is in construciton so I have access to a heavy duty compressor. Is it simpler to not convert from Co2 and buy a large tank and refill it?
    Thanks again and in advance for help with this.

    -Imants (The Captain)

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  • ACI warehouse sale !!!!! -- Russ, 21:12:22 11/15/02 Fri (4.47.62.101)
    ACI will be having a warehouse sale again this weekend november 16th (saturday) and 17th (sunday). saturday from 7am to 5pm and sunday 12pm to 5pm

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