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Subject: Gi?????


Author:
Superman
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Date Posted: 14:12:55 01/08/04 Thu

If someone is learning a martial art just for 'street use' is taking a class that requires a gi madatory a good or bad thing? I have heard some people say that it is a bad thing because you will almost never need to defend yourself agianst an assailant wearing a gi. Kind of like trying to practice the most possible realistic way. Thanks for your opinions

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Author:
Tito Geo
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Date Posted: 16:19:06 01/09/04 Fri

Rarely do I wear a Gi for the same reasons you mentioned. I train along with my students in what we would likely have on if needed to defend ourselves, however there is a place for Gi's, especially in formal, traditional or classical training. Same goes with wearing shoes vs barefoot.
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Author:
Wesley Ulmer
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Date Posted: 08:22:29 01/10/04 Sat

I think that using a gi in training is very important. A gi is much more durable than any normal clothing that you would work out with. If you wore a t-shirt or sweater, every time you gad a good rough grappling match the shirt would be ruined. If you are concerned about the gi in relation to real clothing, think of it as a jacket, that is what it traditionaly was. A good jacket will be as sturdy as a gi, therefore you could do the same techniques with it. Training without a gi is fine, but it can become costly. I wouldn't dismiss the system solely because it requires that you wear a gi.
[> Subject: Re: Gi?????


Author:
Corey Minatani
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Date Posted: 01:10:02 01/12/04 Mon

ok, bottom line. If you want the skills, do what they say! Who cares if you're wearing the gi in reality or not! Understand though, ARMY BDU's and white shirts with ties represent gi formations, the gi, like a shirt with a collar, can be choked. Same goes with a BDU.

I think a lot of beginners need to quit bitching and start training. Maybe after you get 15 years, then you can demand not to wear a gi, until then, shut the f*** up!

Training is only TRAINING! If you want to go learn to fight, find the biggest mother you can in the rattiest ass biker joint and pick a fight! No, seriously. If you survive, you get experience. Oh, not that much of a barney bad-ass, then do what your instructor tells you. Until your the man, wear the gi. I'm a 5th Dan in karate, 3rd Dan Modern Arnis, and instructor in Aiki. I'll wear my gi and I will play with anyone! Remember, Royce Gracie used a gi and one, what the first 4 UFC's. Look at history and the context.

I think Geo is right, but not for formal, traditional or whatever. Its that the gi is stronger than my t shirt and jeans, and will simply last longer for training. Simple. Also, if you're going to truly conceal weapons, e.g. DTL, clipit, etc., you need to be comfortable in clothes that would resemble such like a gi, long sleeves, loose pants. I can think of Jim Keating who always wore long sleeves. Last time I saw him, he was in coveralls. Just a multi-purpose gi, with lots of pockets to hide weapons, think about it. Loose pants, to run away if necessary.

Corey Minatani
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Author:
Rayman
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Date Posted: 06:33:47 08/07/04 Sat

I appreciate your remarks, and as a non blackbelt holder I appreciate the facts. It is a matter of respect, and of course if you were down the beach you wouldnt fight in a gi, but at the same time, at classes, it would be silly to say to wear speedos and a two piece for the girls.lol
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Author:
Jack
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Date Posted: 22:01:57 01/29/04 Thu

My opinion... Taking a class that requires a Gi/Dobok for the sole purpose of "learning to fight" or for "street use" is a bad thing. For certain, almost all styles of martial arts were designed and founded solely for combat, but most of the modern world has no practical daily application for hand to hand fighting. Instead, look at the larger picture; the biproducts of intense training. Strict attention to detail, concentration, obedience, and respect all come with practicing traditional "uniformed" martial arts. It, if persued properly, will bring a sense of peace and serenity to a person's life, as well as wisdom and ability to fight. I would ask, out of respect for the arts, that you NOT study a traditional "uniformed" martial art unless you are prepared to make the commitment to the WHOLE purpose. To simply learn to fight, there are plenty of other roads to take. Respectfully,
Jack


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