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Subject: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: Emmett Sheets [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 16:21:09 08/05/03 Tue In reply to: Roy 's message, "Re: Volunteer Arms Co." on 16:33:49 06/02/03 Mon Are Neumann Bros shotguns still safe to use with low brass ammunition? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: Roy [Edit] Date Posted: 19:24:53 08/05/03 Tue I'm not going to tell you that on the internet. And don't believe anyone who will. Neumann Freres made shotguns over a long period of time. Some were only proofed for black powder and NO smokeless powder ammunition should be used in them. Many will have short chambers, in which case the length of the shell is as important as the size of the load. And the care the gun has received over the past century is critical. If it spent a few of those years unoiled in a damp basement, there may be rust pockets below the surface if it has damascus or twist barrels. If you want to shoot it, have it examined by a competent gunsmith and if he gives it the OK, use only the type of ammunition he recommends. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: matt [Edit] Date Posted: 23:38:15 10/19/03 Sun >I'm not going to tell you that on the internet. And >don't believe anyone who will. Neumann Freres made >shotguns over a long period of time. Some were only >proofed for black powder and NO smokeless powder >ammunition should be used in them. Many will have >short chambers, in which case the length of the shell >is as important as the size of the load. And the care >the gun has received over the past century is >critical. If it spent a few of those years unoiled in >a damp basement, there may be rust pockets below the >surface if it has damascus or twist barrels. If you >want to shoot it, have it examined by a competent >gunsmith and if he gives it the OK, use only the type >of ammunition he recommends. Roy, Do you know where I can learn more about these shotguns? I own a Neumann, 16 ga., boxlock, ejector , sideclips, with "T.W.STAKE" on the left side of the action and engraving of a lighthouse on the rear of the rib. Thanks Matt [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: Roy [Edit] Date Posted: 21:32:38 11/13/03 Thu Neumann Bros. shotguns were made by Neumann Freres, a Belgium gun making company from 1863 to 1957. "T.W.STAKE" is a trade name that I have not encountered before. In the 1890-1915 period, many firearms manufacturers would mark any name requested on their guns. It seems that by ordering a dozen guns and paying a few dollars extra to make the roll stamp a hardware store could sell guns "custom made" for them. If you have an idea where this gun may have been originally purchased, you might research this name. The "lighthouse" is probably the mark of the Leige Proof house. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: Gaffney [Edit] Date Posted: 17:18:30 11/13/03 Thu >I'm not going to tell you that on the internet. And >don't believe anyone who will. Neumann Freres made >shotguns over a long period of time. Some were only >proofed for black powder and NO smokeless powder >ammunition should be used in them. Many will have >I did not see a response to your request for informaton on your neumann 16ga boxlock with J W Stake I also have a neuman 20ga. with the same markings (it also has a crossbolt). if you got a response please forward to me thank you. I would also like to know what the lighthouse indicates.short chambers, in which case the length of the shell >is as important as the size of the load. And the care >the gun has received over the past century is >critical. If it spent a few of those years unoiled in >a damp basement, there may be rust pockets below the >surface if it has damascus or twist barrels. If you >want to shoot it, have it examined by a competent >gunsmith and if he gives it the OK, use only the type >of ammunition he recommends. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Neumann Brothers Shotguns Author: Roy [Edit] Date Posted: 21:34:58 11/13/03 Thu Gaffney - see my reply to Matt. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]