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Date Posted: 14:38:54 05/18/03 SunPDT
Author: ANTHONY SPENCER
Author Host/IP: 64.12.96.73
Subject: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74

SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- ANTHONY SPENCER, 14:40:56 05/18/03 SunPDT (64.12.96.73)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- John Mastrangelo, 18:00:46 08/06/03 WedPDT (198.81.26.139)

>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.

Was stationed at NKP '68-69. Lost any and all contact with former buddies years ago. Do know that in 1965 the base perimeter was defoliated. UnknowN what type...not much help. Prayers help, you got mine.
BENO, CHEDDAR, THOR..my dogs left and lost at NKP.
HANG IN THERE!

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- George Zatko (formerly of AFTN), 01:05:30 10/28/03 TuePST (205.188.209.13)

>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
I cannot be specific as to '72-74 anthough I was at NKP from Oct. 1972-Oct. 1973. HOWEVER, I returned to Thailand in 1974, to Korat and was there until the Base was deactivated in 1975. I know at one point there appeared to be a substance something like Agent Orange being flushed down the base sewer system. If such was the case, persons stationed with the USAF Hospital at Korat in 1975 possibly could shed some light on this for you. The Hospital Commander at the time was Major James Conklin, a Flight Surgeon and F-4 Driver. That's about all I have, but hope this little information will aid you. My Prayers are with you. God Bless.
George

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[> [> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Sgt Lawrence Kirk Walters SPS 74-75 (Enockson & I left 5 days before mayaguez), 07:09:21 04/20/09 MonPDT (208.54.94.19)

>>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL
>PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
>I cannot be specific as to '72-74 anthough I was at
>NKP from Oct. 1972-Oct. 1973. HOWEVER, I returned to
>Thailand in 1974, to Korat and was there until the
>Base was deactivated in 1975. I know at one point
>there appeared to be a substance something like Agent
>Orange being flushed down the base sewer system. If
>such was the case, persons stationed with the USAF
>Hospital at Korat in 1975 possibly could shed some
>light on this for you. The Hospital Commander at the
>time was Major James Conklin, a Flight Surgeon and F-4
>Driver. That's about all I have, but hope this little
>information will aid you. My Prayers are with you.
>God Bless.
> George

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Dutch VanHatten, 09:22:50 05/11/06 ThuPDT (69.81.27.124)

Hey Spence-

I'm sorry to hear about your medical issues. I'm 80% disabled but, mine is from being busted up from some of the teams I was on and other "stuff" I was doing. AO- I don't have anything concrete. Just stuff guys talked about when we were there and things I've heard since we were there. For me Oct 73-Oct 74. If that might support, let me know.

I do remember a little hell-raising with you.
BTW- I'm Director for Viet Nam Dog Handlers Association, Thailand Group- NKP. I was wondering if you would like to join? You'll find more and more NKP K-9 signing up lately and more to come.

I'm on my way out and I'd like to catch up more later.

Again my prayers are with you and I look forward to hearing from you.



Dr. Dutch VanHatten, PhD, MPA
President, Dutch VanHatten Consulting, LLC
913-638-5256
dutchspeaks@earthlink.net

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[> [> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Donald J Shaw, 08:36:30 12/02/08 TuePST (99.179.71.102)

Yes, it was there in orange and white drums,however, Congress doesnot want to ackownledge it. I was stationed there from 73-74 I am a disabled Vetran 80% and soon will be 100% within the next six months. Its sad how Vetrans Affairs handles your claims and how you have to fight for what is rightfully yours. What tears me up more than anything is the lose of our conrades in the Mayaguez, I will always remember them, exspecially SSgt.Faleagafulu,we had alot of good times together, and Sgt.Gerald Fritz he always wanted me to marry a Thi girl. I loved our coats we had made with the k-9 on the back sad that my x-wife wouldn't let me have it. Well hopefully maybe one day Congress will kick some butt and get Vetrans Affair to quit hiding files and denying claims.... there good at that.

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Curtis D. Hammond (Yes it was there), 14:58:43 05/05/08 MonPDT (76.92.191.97)

>>Yes it was there, I was a Qrt-leader one who was where you where. please feel free to get on board with the bluewaternavy people, go to www.regulations.gov. look up Docket # VA-2008-VBA-0014 defination of service in Vietnam, there are starting to be more and more government politcication getting on-board to win these prsumpative issue. It was there according the CHECIO base defense. Curtis D. Hammond

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Harrison S. Reed, III, 14:53:59 03/23/05 WedPST (68.35.22.45)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.

I was stationed at NKP from 6/3/67 to 6/3/68 as a Security Police Supervisor (SSGT). During my time there I saw 55 gallon drums of agent orange in the bomb dump and the open supply storage area. For some period of time, probably a TDY assignment, a Ranch Hand unit was stationed on the base. They would transfer the contents of the drums to a larger container on a trailer right beside the gate shack of the bomb dump. I had Agent Orange spilled on me from those transfers on several occasions. At some point the base was sprayed with agent orange to expand the size of the base and build a new runway. This was around July 1967. At the time of the spraying the runway consisted of PSP, the kind with holes in it. After the base was sprayed it seemed as if the jungle just disappeared right before your eyes. I asked a Red Horse guy clearing the area with a bulldozer how the jungle was dying so fast and he told me that a plane had sprayed it with something to kill the plant life. Shortly after a new runway was laid down, it also was metal(more solid) that looked like aluminum siding only a lot stronger. It wasn't strong enought to support a Boeing 707 military version cargo plane fully loaded with supplies because one landed one day and the metal folded up around the tires. Soon therafter, construction was begun on a permanent runway farther out trom the two different metal runways. Red Horse had to dig down fifteen to twenty feet to dig out the soil that turned to jelly when it got wet.

I was also an instructor at Lackland AFB in 1963 & 1964 in the Sentry Dog Program before transferring to the Basic Air Police School where I stayed until I went to Thailand in 1967.

With a background in sentry dogs the commander asked me to build the first dog kennel at NKP. It was just off of the main road through the base, past the open supply area heading toward the bomb dump on the right. I built the kennels the same as the ones at Lackland with the dog house mounted off the ground with a round pole where the dog could be chained and still be able to run around his/her area. I don't think it was ever used because someone in Red Horse had a betten idea and finally got around to that project. What a waste. I can't tell you how many bulldozers I borrowed, truckloads gravel I pilfered and chain link fencing I scrounged. Do you remember if the one I built was still standing?

When I got back from Southeast Asia in 1968 and got spit on by war protestors as I got off the plane in San Francisco I decieed that eight years in the USAF was enough and I didn't want to go back to Southeast Asia to be away from my two small children again. The decision was a very good decision in that I went to school at The University of Texas at Austin and earned a degree in Accounting. I have had a good working career.

I hope this can help you with a claim. I have subbmitted a claim for agent orange exposure and had it denied. The government denies that we were in Thailand and were certainly not involved it the war. If you know of anyone from my time period that could help my cause, I would appreciate it.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- warren maynard, 07:36:19 02/06/08 WedPST (70.224.178.229)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
Check with Kurt Pressman or Bill Cimmings. They sent out a memo about chemicals used at all bases in Thailand. I was at Korat 71-72 and NKP 74-74. Thanks Warren

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Michael J Houghton (depressed), 21:32:27 03/17/11 ThuPDT (207.191.131.8)

>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
>Check with Kurt Pressman or Bill Cimmings. They sent
>out a memo about chemicals used at all bases in
>Thailand. I was at Korat 71-72 and NKP 74-74. Thanks
>Warren

Warren I did a tour there 69/70, I have had lung cancer, now have prostrate cancer, poly pereifial neuropathy and tmj. I'm f'n misserable, drink all day to kill the pain, go to the doctors twice a month for whatever, I was diagnosed with prostrate cancer stage 1 december 09, nov 10 did 36 radiation treatments in a row from 100 miles away, don't quit, deny, delay, death otherwise. Mike
forgot I have major reacurring depression over this s't. I take meds 3 times a day, a handfull.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Curtis D. Hammond (VA Watch dog), 15:57:46 05/05/08 MonPDT (76.92.191.97)

Mr Spencer, please look at VA Watchdog.com today the 5th of May is an article about the Presumpative issues that may have an effect on your case. Everytime I see another cop from NKP get sick and not be covered because of this boots-in country, I go totally off. Call your Conressperson or any represenative today!!!!!

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Mark Hemphill, 11:41:50 06/30/08 MonPDT (72.11.120.165)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER

Served 73-74 K-9 Dog Handler ( BLITZ ) was my dog at the time . I was diagnoised with PROSTATE CANCER in 1999 I was 45 years old , I'm now 55 years old . They had to take everything out , just in time before it exploded into other parts of my body . I'm doing very well now ..... I'm sorry for the other K-9 Dog Handlers you have been exposed to AGENT ORANGE .... My Doctor told me he felt it was couse by the environment ..... Very possible The AGENT ORANGE used at NKP Thailand Base ........ Take Veryone and May GOD BLESS you and your families ................

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Kurt Priessman, MSgt, USAF (Ret) (Don't give up, don't ever give up.), 11:05:19 08/31/08 SunPDT (68.92.20.143)

Ladies and Gentlemen (I use the term rhetorically).

The answer to the questions here are a resounding yes!!! See the CHECO Report posted on VDHA in the Kennels.

Kurt


>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER
>
> Served 73-74 K-9 Dog Handler ( BLITZ ) was my dog at
>the time . I was diagnoised with PROSTATE CANCER in
>1999 I was 45 years old , I'm now 55 years old . They
>had to take everything out , just in time before it
>exploded into other parts of my body . I'm doing very
>well now ..... I'm sorry for the other K-9 Dog
>Handlers you have been exposed to AGENT ORANGE .... My
>Doctor told me he felt it was couse by the environment
>..... Very possible The AGENT ORANGE used at NKP
>Thailand Base ........ Take Veryone and May GOD BLESS
>you and your families ................

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Joe Barclay, 00:10:01 12/30/08 TuePST (76.116.118.85)

I need someone who remembers me or a crash of a UH1 AARS in cambodia in Aug. 21 1973 returning to NKP from the Country Club with wounded and others during the withdraw. There were only three survivers. I was assigned from the security division to the AARS as a doorgunner. Anyone who can assist me It would be very much appreciated.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Kurt Priessman, 14:15:03 04/06/09 MonPDT (70.245.40.165)

Just to let you know, we have had great success for security police and dog handlers getting compensated for exposure to herbicides in Thailand with DEROS between 1970 - 1974. So far we have 3 from U-Tapao, 2 from NKP, 1 from Korat, 1 from Udorn, and 1 from Ubon.

We have quite a few working including 3 more from NKP, 3 from Korat, 2 from Ubon, 1 from Udorn, and another from U-Tapao. Additionally, some are getting PTSD from the attacks there. Earlier tours (pre-1969) are not being approved, and unfortunately, I have nothing about Tahkli.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Mark Johnson Night Fighter 10 1972 1973 (Saw Wa Dee Cop), 17:09:06 10/03/09 SatPDT (24.131.197.106)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.

I have an enlarged prostate, but no cancer.

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[> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Sam martinez (marty), 19:12:56 05/26/11 ThuPDT (70.142.42.219)

>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
I was stationed at NKP at that time 72-75 with Citrano,Knowles, "possum", Blivens I was there in Dec. when our base was probed and S.P. Capt. Mike Rutland was wounded. I handled Rinnie and Boscoe until I left. Well good luck and god bless all k-9 handlers.

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[> [> Re: NKP THAILAND ANY NIGHTFIGHTERS 73-74 -- Jose Serrato, "Wild Bunch", 15:45:54 08/29/11 MonPDT (72.220.130.155)

>>SEEKING ANY INFORMATION FROM ANY AND ALL PUPPY-PUSHERS
>>STATIONED IN THAILAND WHO MIGHT HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF ANY
>>CHEMICALS USED IN THIS REGION IN 72-74. ANY
>>INFORMATION WHOULD BE HELPFUL, HAVE PROSTATE CANCER.
>I was stationed at NKP at that time 72-75 with
>Citrano,Knowles, "possum", Blivens I was there in Dec.
>when our base was probed and S.P. Capt. Mike Rutland
>was wounded. I handled Rinnie and Boscoe until I left.
>Well good luck and god bless all k-9 handlers.
Hey Marty, this is Serrato. I finally found you. If you read this email, please contact me. I was in touch with Knowles for a while till he left. I don't know where. Were you ever in touch with "possum?"

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