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Date Posted: 22/09/07 7:45:44am
Author: Lou Ellen (Oh Really!!!!!!!!!)
Subject: Re: Symbolic Great Rite is done Backwards!!
In reply to: Witchyshaman 's message, "Re: Symbolic Great Rite is done Backwards!!" on 21/09/07 4:25:11pm

>>>How do you reverse the roles in the Great Rite? the
>>>Masculine is inserted into the Feminine whether in
>>>token or in truth. there is no role reversal. When
>>>the Great rite is being done in token, the masculine
>>>element is being inserted in to the feminine symbol.
>>>the fact that the the fem holds the mas symbol and
>the
>>>man holds the fem symbols, is about total balance.
>>>
>>>I have seen it done many times with just the
>>>officiating Priest or Priestess placing the chalice
>on
>>>the Pentacle and inserting the Athame, i have seen 2
>>>men do it in token, i have seen 2 women do it in
>>>token. it doesnt really matter if the Rite is in
>>>token in a non traditional setting.
>>>
>>>I think that what you are referring to is found
>moreso
>>>in Trad Wicca and as such i dont really feel that
>more
>>>needs to be explained here in an open forum. except
>to
>>>say that when you really get down to the heart of
>True
>>>Wicca, there is only balance in everything and
>>>everything is in balance.
>>>
>>>I hope this is making sense?, i am very tired atm.
>>>
>>>Foxglove
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> > Yes,this I am well aware of. The
>question
>>>>stands...Why reverse the roles?? Personal
>>>>satisfaction has Nothing to do with it. I mean,
>we
>>>>may as well reverse the roles in the Actual Great
>>Rite
>>>>as well ! Call it a balance of polarity,perfect
>>>>union,or whatever you want., it is still backwards .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>
>> ...>> Your first paragraph answers your
>>own question of how. (see my original question
>>perhaps). I think that we can "agree to disagree", as
>>they say. I also think that this should not be
>>discussed further on open forum,& I'm growing tired of
>>it. Many thanks to you & to those who replied
>>seriously & tried to keep this serious. > I think
>>that it has reached 'The End', so could someone start
>>with some New Postings. BB & "Weave Brightly".....
>>Lou Ellen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Foxglove is right again, how
>can your question still stands. You don't reverse the
>roles.
>There's your answer.
>If you have studied for years on this, then you need
>to study more I guess!
>
>Witchyshaman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Answer this for yourself Oh wise & wonderful! Q/...What is the word (beginnig with M)that describes the activity of a person having sex Alone??? ...Clue..It's supposed to send you blind! Now that you have answered that,consider this..... A person in circle solemly performs the same act as above but 'in token'. How can this be called the Great Rite,in token?? It Cannot!! OR,, To prove the point,have that lone person perform in Actuality what is being done in Token,ALONE ! What,would he/she be doing??? (Answer starts with M). ..Lou Ellen !!

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