Re: Agent Orange Used At Ubon Air Base Thailand 67/68 -- Chemical Exposure Of Military Dog Handlers

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Subject: Re: Agent Orange Used At Ubon Air Base Thailand 67/68

Author:
Gary L Marano (Working on claim of periferal Neuropathy VA)
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Date Posted: 22:22:51 03/15/07 Thu
In reply to: MARILYN OLIVER 's message, "TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE" on 23:09:31 05/08/05 Sun

>I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH
>TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED
>OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US.
>Hello to all TVETS..............after developing periferal neuropathy in my 50's and not getting any satisfactory reason why I have it my VA doctor was changed and I got a new one and when heard that I was in SEA he ordered a test at the clinic...........I immediately went to my local VA affairs office and filed two claims one for the neuropathy and another for loss of hearing from working around jet aircraft. It sounds promising...........I think that the VA is loosing up on Thailand and they can't keep the secret anymore.................wish me luck....Sgt Gary Marano 8th TFS Ubon Thailand 67/68
>
>I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO
>TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE
>STAND, AT THIS POINT.
>
>EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
>YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE
>AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR
>ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS.
>
>Author: Taura
>I am trying to document all the locations our veterans
>witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact
>me if you have any knowledge on this subject.
>Am working to shore up a few week points in the
>research project and this is one of them--I have them
>currently located in three places let me hear from
>you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is
>nearing it's completion and the new info collected
>will be submitted to officials in the near
>future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months
>ago additional evidence was added recently and this is
>another request I have recieved from officials which
>they want your in put on. Your statements make a
>diference believe me--I have done this long enough to
>know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no
>doubt there are those listening. Taura
>
>
>Author: Taura
>Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release
>of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent
>Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other
>documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67.
>I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the
>info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over
>and adding additional info to the cd that has not been
>added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the
>cd in the next two weeks.
>
>For those of you with additional evidence that you
>believe could be of help to others which you would
>like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it
>and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a
>collection of compelling gov. documents.
>
>I would be interested in any soil reports or findings
>relating to the environment.
>
>I also want to thank all the veterans for having
>helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue
>and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on
>several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our
>veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of
>scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of
>equal concern.
>
>All of you need to know that VA now has info and
>conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but
>that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking
>to get this expanded and officially added to the law.
>
>Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com
>
>
>
>TVVET
>
>Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and
>myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent
>Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was
>post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching
>those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember
>seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or
>other compelling information. The response we received
>was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely
>informative, others led us to different information
>and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to
>thank all of you for your contribution to this effort,
>and give you an update as to what happened with the
>information you sent us.
>
>We completed a 150 page report that includes
>documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and
>eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air
>Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch
>Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven
>air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli).
>
>There was one other area of evidence that may prove to
>the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly
>out of concern that the information could disappear.
>There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol
>dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in
>1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in
>the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand
>after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that
>era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy)
>when they die regardless of the cause of death.
>Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given
>a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy
>is to have scientific information on the effects the
>dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on
>the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of
>fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We
>have asked Congress to conduct a study of those
>necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs
>that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if
>herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand
>there will be evidence of it through the report of the
>health conditions of those dogs at the point of their
>death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases
>that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and
>their handlers worked.
>
>On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end
>of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report
>out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane
>Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of
>Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs.
>
>A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB
>and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to
>try and find location on the internet where the report
>can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon
>as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will
>let you know and where to find it.
>
>A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in
>the report, so we established a method of selecting
>the ones used.
>The prioritizing was as follows:
>
> 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent
>with other testimonies that were received from
>veterans who served on different bases at
>different times
>
> 2) Testimonies that matched Government
>Documentation that we received
>
> 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange
>barrels and or spraying it.
>
> 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed
>information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions
>of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on
>
>We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email
>addresses on every testimony that was used.
>
>Please understand that if your testimony/survey was
>not used in the report it does not mean it did not
>have value. Every survey we received back contributed
>to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never
>thought of going to. We want you to be assured that
>your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of
>them made a valuable contribution.
>
>
>Thank you so much,
>
>David F. Adams
>TVVET
>
>
>I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS,
>JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR
>TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP.
>
>THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY,
>FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY
>HONORED LADIES.
>
>I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY
>FURTHER DETAILS.
>
>BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER

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Author:
Lance Taylor
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Date Posted: 20:44:09 11/10/07 Sat

Stationed at Utapio 70 to 71. Walking to the barracks from the club. Walked right through a cloud of spray from the truck going around the base spraying for bugs.

Now have type II diabetis.

How would you start to prove that it was (2,4-D; 2,4,5-T and its contaminant TCDD; cacodylic acid; or picloram)

Any ideas out there? My guess it would be hard to find any info on what exactly was being sprayed.

Thanks to the folks who are working on this.

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>>I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >>TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >>OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. >>Hello to all TVETS..............after developing >periferal neuropathy in my 50's and not getting any >satisfactory reason why I have it my VA doctor was >changed and I got a new one and when heard that I was >in SEA he ordered a test at the clinic...........I >immediately went to my local VA affairs office and >filed two claims one for the neuropathy and another >for loss of hearing from working around jet aircraft. >It sounds promising...........I think that the VA is >loosing up on Thailand and they can't keep the secret >anymore.................wish me luck....Sgt Gary >Marano 8th TFS Ubon Thailand 67/68 >> >>I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >>TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >>STAND, AT THIS POINT. >> >>EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >>YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >>AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >>ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. >> >>Author: Taura >>I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >>witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >>me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >>Am working to shore up a few week points in the >>research project and this is one of them--I have them >>currently located in three places let me hear from >>you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >>nearing it's completion and the new info collected >>will be submitted to officials in the near >>future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >>ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >>another request I have recieved from officials which >>they want your in put on. Your statements make a >>diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >>know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >>doubt there are those listening. Taura >> >> >>Author: Taura >>Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >>of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >>Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >>documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >>I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >>info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >>and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >>added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >>cd in the next two weeks. >> >>For those of you with additional evidence that you >>believe could be of help to others which you would >>like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >>and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >>collection of compelling gov. documents. >> >>I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >>relating to the environment. >> >>I also want to thank all the veterans for having >>helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >>and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >>several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >>veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >>scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >>equal concern. >> >>All of you need to know that VA now has info and >>conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >>that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >>to get this expanded and officially added to the law. >> >>Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com >> >> >> >>TVVET >> >>Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >>myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >>Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >>post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >>those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >>seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >>other compelling information. The response we received >>was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >>informative, others led us to different information >>and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >>thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >>and give you an update as to what happened with the >>information you sent us. >> >>We completed a 150 page report that includes >>documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >>eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >>Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >>Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >>air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). >> >>There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >>the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >>out of concern that the information could disappear. >>There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >>dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >>1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >>the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >>after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >>era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >>when they die regardless of the cause of death. >>Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >>a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >>is to have scientific information on the effects the >>dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >>the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >>fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >>have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >>necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >>that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >>herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >>there will be evidence of it through the report of the >>health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >>death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >>that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >>their handlers worked. >> >>On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >>of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >>out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >>Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >>Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. >> >>A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >>and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >>try and find location on the internet where the report >>can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >>as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >>let you know and where to find it. >> >>A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >>the report, so we established a method of selecting >>the ones used. >>The prioritizing was as follows: >> >> 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >>with other testimonies that were received from >>veterans who served on different bases at >>different times >> >> 2) Testimonies that matched Government >>Documentation that we received >> >> 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >>barrels and or spraying it. >> >> 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >>information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >>of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on >> >>We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >>addresses on every testimony that was used. >> >>Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >>not used in the report it does not mean it did not >>have value. Every survey we received back contributed >>to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >>thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >>your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >>them made a valuable contribution. >> >> >>Thank you so much, >> >>David F. Adams >>TVVET >> >> >>I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >>JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >>TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. >> >>THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >>FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >>HONORED LADIES. >> >>I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >>FURTHER DETAILS. >> >>BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER

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