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Subject: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: MARILYN OLIVER

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 23:09:31 05/08/05 Sun I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE STAND, AT THIS POINT. EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. Author: Taura I am trying to document all the locations our veterans witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact me if you have any knowledge on this subject. Am working to shore up a few week points in the research project and this is one of them--I have them currently located in three places let me hear from you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is nearing it's completion and the new info collected will be submitted to officials in the near future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months ago additional evidence was added recently and this is another request I have recieved from officials which they want your in put on. Your statements make a diference believe me--I have done this long enough to know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no doubt there are those listening. Taura Author: Taura Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over and adding additional info to the cd that has not been added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the cd in the next two weeks. For those of you with additional evidence that you believe could be of help to others which you would like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a collection of compelling gov. documents. I would be interested in any soil reports or findings relating to the environment. I also want to thank all the veterans for having helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of equal concern. All of you need to know that VA now has info and conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking to get this expanded and officially added to the law. Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com TVVET Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or other compelling information. The response we received was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely informative, others led us to different information and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, and give you an update as to what happened with the information you sent us. We completed a 150 page report that includes documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). There was one other area of evidence that may prove to the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly out of concern that the information could disappear. There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in 1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) when they die regardless of the cause of death. Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy is to have scientific information on the effects the dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We have asked Congress to conduct a study of those necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand there will be evidence of it through the report of the health conditions of those dogs at the point of their death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and their handlers worked. On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to try and find location on the internet where the report can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will let you know and where to find it. A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in the report, so we established a method of selecting the ones used. The prioritizing was as follows: 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent with other testimonies that were received from veterans who served on different bases at different times 2) Testimonies that matched Government Documentation that we received 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange barrels and or spraying it. 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email addresses on every testimony that was used. Please understand that if your testimony/survey was not used in the report it does not mean it did not have value. Every survey we received back contributed to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never thought of going to. We want you to be assured that your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of them made a valuable contribution. Thank you so much, David F. Adams TVVET I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY HONORED LADIES. I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY FURTHER DETAILS. BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Author: Robert Williams Lyman N.H. 03585 [Edit]

Date Posted: 06:12:26 07/06/05 Wed I was stationed at Ubon Thailand from Aug 1971 to Aug 1972. I was assigned to the 8th Security Police Sq law Enforcement section.I lived on base in the security Police barracks with medal roofs and screans for walls. it was just like sleeping out side. No wonder we have arthritis . I can recal waking up one morningto a damp mist that smelled like DDT or bug spray. My bunk was on the end of the bldg where I could see the primiter.There was a tractor pulling sprayer along the primitor. The wind was blowing right towards the barracks. The smell woke me up. I walked to the latreen and the mist felt like a fine spray in the wind. I got dressed for the day shift and went to work I asked a supervisor and he thought it was DDT or a bug spray for misquitoes. This happened at least four times on the primoter that I can recal. I only felt the spray once. The day the wind was blowing.Feel free to e-mail me I will clearify any thing I said. I will be glad to help [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Grady Olmstead [Edit]

Date Posted: 10:35:58 08/06/06 Sun I was stationed at the 7th RRFS(RadioResearchFieldStation) (U.S.Army) from Sept70 til Dec'71. AtThisTime I do not have any of the problems that alot of Thailand Vets are having to deal with. And everyone also needs to know that "it wasn't just the Air Force that was in Thailand"!!!! But the facts remain that we have been excluded and (to put it mildly) THAT'S NOT RIGHT [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:08:41 08/19/06 Sat Calling all Thailand Veterans To: "Marilyn Oliver" <themamabear47@yahoo.com> Your help is needed now!!!!! I spoke with Taura King last evening. She has a request, she is asking of you. Your involvement in the Thailand issues, is desperately needed now. All of the Thailand information, was given to Congressman Evans, over a year ago and is sitting on his desk. The only thing that has come out of it, is that the DOD admits to testing AO in Thailand, during 1964-1965. Some of the information that Taura gave him, was government documents, stating spraying was started in 1953. Apparently he hasn't even seen, the Thailand CD. Needless to say, she is quite upset with them and has told them so. For those who have copies of the Thailand CD, please make copies. Hand them out to all Thailand Vets, you come in contact with. Then put your home state on them and send them to Congressman Evans. Along with the cd, write a letter demanding to know what the outcome is, on the Thailand issues. Since he has had all the information for a year. You want to know what is happening, to get the Thailand Vets recognized. As I understand it, they want to single out certain areas of service and for those who were not in the given area, will not be covered. They did this on Korea and it is wrong! The Korean Vets, have a lawsuit pending I believe, to get this changed. Taura's information covers the whole country of Thailand. She has stated to them many times, no area should be excluded. You as the veteran, have to wake these politicans up. You have to flood his Illinois office, with cd's and letters. Demanding that he look at the information and get the ball rolling. It has been passed over, for too long! Those that have retired from the military and collecting benefits, with service in Thailand. Request a cd and do the same to help, your brother in arms. With each new day, I am getting word that more and more veterans, that served in Thailand are ill. With the same service connected diseases, as the Vietnam vets have, as well as those not listed. I am also hearing from their widows, who are left behind to fight the VA, by themselves. All Thailand vets, have to stand together united, in seeing that these issues get taken care of now. You can send your letter and cd to: Moline Office - Congressman Lane Evans 1535 - 47th Avenue, Suite 5 Moline, IL 61265 Galesburg Office - Congressman Lane Evans 261 N. Broad Street, Suite 5 Galesburg, IL 61401 Decatur Office - Congressman Lane Evans 236 N. Water Street, Suite 765 Decatur, IL 62523 Let us make a difference and get the Thailand issues settled. The time is now, to move forward. Thank you for your help, from Taura, Sue, myself and those behind the scenes, that have been working very hard, to push this forward. Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: PEDRO PENA (AGENT ORANGE) [Edit]

Date Posted: 14:32:13 09/12/06 Tue > Hi there; My name is Pedro Pena and I have a horrible case of Diabetes. I am presently injecting 120 units of insulin per day. I blame this on Agent Orange contact in Guam in 67 or Utapao AB in 68. I woyld like to get a copy of the so called "CD". How do I go about getting it ? mY MAILING address is 612 W. Commerce, San Antonio Tx. 78207 and my phone number is 210-271-0434 during 10:00AM to 6:00 PM Central Time [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: clarence wilson (our leaders dont care about us very sad.) [Edit]

Date Posted: 16:44:26 10/28/07 Sun > Calling all Thailand Veterans >To: "Marilyn Oliver" <themamabear47@yahoo.com> > >Your help is needed now!!!!! > >I spoke with Taura King last evening. She has a >request, she is asking of you. Your involvement in >the Thailand issues, is desperately needed now. > >All of the Thailand information, was given to >Congressman Evans, over a year ago and is sitting on >his desk. The only thing that has come out of it, is >that the DOD admits to testing AO in Thailand, during >1964-1965. Some of the information that Taura gave >him, was government documents, stating spraying was >started in 1953. Apparently he hasn't even seen, the >Thailand CD. Needless to say, she is quite upset with >them and has told them so. > >For those who have copies of the Thailand CD, please >make copies. Hand them out to all Thailand Vets, you >come in contact with. Then put your home state on >them and send them to Congressman Evans. Along with >the cd, write a letter demanding to know what the >outcome is, on the Thailand issues. Since he has had >all the information for a year. You want to know what >is happening, to get the Thailand Vets recognized. > >As I understand it, they want to single out certain >areas of service and for those who were not in the >given area, will not be covered. They did this on >Korea and it is wrong! The Korean Vets, have a >lawsuit pending I believe, to get this changed. >Taura's information covers the whole country of >Thailand. She has stated to them many times, no area >should be excluded. > >You as the veteran, have to wake these politicans up. >You have to flood his Illinois office, with cd's and >letters. Demanding that he look at the information >and get the ball rolling. It has been passed over, >for too long! > >Those that have retired from the military and >collecting benefits, with service in Thailand. >Request a cd and do the same to help, your brother in >arms. > >With each new day, I am getting word that more and >more veterans, that served in Thailand are ill. With >the same service connected diseases, as the Vietnam >vets have, as well as those not listed. I am also >hearing from their widows, who are left behind to >fight the VA, by themselves. All Thailand vets, have >to stand together united, in seeing that these issues >get taken care of now. > >You can send your letter and cd to: > >Moline Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >1535 - 47th Avenue, Suite 5 >Moline, IL 61265 > >Galesburg Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >261 N. Broad Street, Suite 5 >Galesburg, IL 61401 > >Decatur Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >236 N. Water Street, Suite 765 >Decatur, IL 62523 > >Let us make a difference and get the Thailand issues >settled. The time is now, to move forward. > >Thank you for your help, from Taura, Sue, myself and >those behind the scenes, that have been working very >hard, to push this forward. > >Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Deborah McCormick (Concerned!) [Edit]

Date Posted: 07:37:08 06/09/07 Sat Greetings to you good people! I am writing on behalf of my husband. We have sure spoken about this issue a lot lately. My husband served In Air Force, security police, was stationed at NKP 71-72. When he got out of the service in 1974, he started having some lung issues. By 1975 he was diagnosed with sarcoidosis, actually his doctor said he head never seen anything like this. He called me to meet him at the doctors office. This doctor looked at us and said he had lesions all over his lungs, and even said it could possibly be hodgkins disease. It was a very alarming time for us. He said there wasnt anything they could do for him. About a year or so later this stuff disappeared. Just vanished! This same doctor said this can happen and would probably return. My husband wondered then if it was do to the pesticide they sprayed while he was there. He said he witnessed it done several times. About 10 years ago he was diagnosed with Type 11 diabetes. He has often said he wondered if what he was exposed to has caused or contributed to his health issue. When he heard about the report you had here, he wasnt surprised at all. He said it's about time they give us some recognition for what we did! Anyway my husband would like to go about signing up for benefits, can you please tell us what and how we shoudl do that? A friend of ours said, Pat owes it to himself to check this out. These benefits are rightfully his. So would someone email us and let us know the process? Our daughter had so much female trouble and always has, just wonder if that could affect her as well? I guess I am asking what is the depth of this agent orange. I know I have heard many nightmare things about this stuff! May God Bless each of you in this indeavor.....and I thank God for your service to maintain my freedom in this land!!!! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: john lombardi 635th SPS 72-73 (big red kicken ass today!) [Edit]

Date Posted: 05:22:05 07/10/07 Tue >I was stationed at Ubon Thailand from Aug 1971 to Aug >1972. I was assigned to the 8th Security Police Sq law >Enforcement section.I lived on base in the security >Police barracks with medal roofs and screans for >walls. it was just like sleeping out side. No wonder >we have arthritis . I can recal waking up one >morningto a damp mist that smelled like DDT or bug >spray. My bunk was on the end of the bldg where I >could see the primiter.There was a tractor pulling >sprayer along the primitor. The wind was blowing right >towards the barracks. The smell woke me up. I walked >to the latreen and the mist felt like a fine spray in >the wind. I got dressed for the day shift and went to >work I asked a supervisor and he thought it was DDT or >a bug spray for misquitoes. This happened at least >four times on the primoter that I can recal. I only >felt the spray once. The day the wind was blowing.Feel >free to e-mail me I will clearify any thing I said. I >will be glad to help [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: William D Basler [Edit]

Date Posted: 11:37:14 09/09/08 Tue >I was stationed at Ubon Thailand from Oct 1972 to Sept >1973. I was assigned to the 8th Transportation Sq Traffic >Management section.I lived on base in the >hooches with medal roofs and screens for >walls. Not only do I remember the spraying of the perimeter but spraying was also done along the roads between the rows of barracks. The pallets of 55 gallon drums were stationed intransit at the aerial port area yard where I worked. The drums were all collectively wrapped in plastic sheeting while intransit and we were told to stay clear of these drums. Hope this helps. >to the latreen and the mist felt like a fine spray in >the wind. I got dressed for the day shift and went to >work I asked a supervisor and he thought it was DDT or >a bug spray for misquitoes. This happened at least >four times on the primoter that I can recal. I only >felt the spray once. The day the wind was blowing.Feel >free to e-mail me I will clearify any thing I said. I >will be glad to help [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: mike m. correa [Edit]

Date Posted: 21:57:56 07/27/05 Wed >I'VE BEEN THREW/THE FOLLOWING V.A. HOSPITALS OR CLINICS!!!PALO ALTO/ SAN JOSE/ FORT ORD/ SANTA CRUZ,, THEY KEEP TRYING TO MAKE A HEAD JOB PROBLEM!!! OF ME!!! K9 HANDLER/BEALE A.F.B., CLARK A.F.B. PHILIPPINES, THE WOMB OF CHEMICALS/RAIDIATION EXPOSURE/MALITHION AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE.. WAS MARRIED IN P.I., HAVE DISABLE SON, FIRST BORN!!! MYSELF CHRONIC PAIN/FATIGUE/VERTIGO/ HOT & COLD SWEATS COME & GO/SLEEP APREA/JOINTS HURT/DEMENTIA & OTHERS, NO, THEY SAY ITS A PSYCH. PROBLEM... REALITY IS THAT THEY AGGRAVATE THE SITUATION/FRUSTRATION/ANXIETY/DEPRESSION ADVOCATE/65 THRU 69..I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Timothy Sturges (frustrated Tim) [Edit]

Date Posted: 20:16:07 07/12/06 Wed > I am frustrated at nonsense the Va gives us in our search for the answeres to our health problems that those of us that served in the secret war of Thailand Loas.Its as if we are traitors for asking for what we earned so many years ago.At NKP there was a55galon drum that had redish-orange markings on the top and bottom rings and a reflective white ring in the middle ring and I have picture of it behind mortar pit three where I worked as agunner. Have seen this same picture on a building out side of than sanut Vietnam in picture Dennis Cooke displayed on VSPA site. And beside this barrel are others marked in colors of pink,blue.green,purple and one with a small orange ring about mid way. Now I'm colored blind to a degree but I could make out the colors.CIA was on NKP and they flew regular out of there on hellis and fixed wing 2 engine air craft that looked like c123.I and a large group went to a SF camp that was in the middle of the mekong river at the LOAS and Cambodian borders tpo train with SF men to be prepared to go to Phenom Phen to resuce the embassy personel and other American Civilians and I have pictures of goin ther twice.The Captian of SF told us that if we had vistors of the bad type crosed over from the area towards Vietnam we would have to fight swim or die in trying to escape back to Thialand.The only way ther was by helicopter so we carried needed supplies of cement that they needed to build protective places for traing insurgents and that we could not take pictures of any asian personnel.There were no written orders becuse this place was nonexsitence as far as the goverment was concerned. An so is the agents that were used and they only let Thais apply these chemicals they would dust every other day in our hutches with apowder and the next time would be with a liquid form that would take tour breath away.It gave me blisters in my nose and the area spraying of the perimeter and any other area men were at at night time pulling duty to keep the mosqitoes under control so as we would not contract malaria even though you took a quine tablet every day. But there is one VERY IMPORTANT fact that sbeen missed any one who went threwAZR training at Medina annex next to Lackland was exposed to radiation contaiminated soil because of a nuclear accident at one of bunkers was blown up and the blast destroyed bunker in the late 50's or early 60's.It was not anuclear blast but the explosives that set of the nuclear reaction went ofcausing a radiatin leak. Any one who worked Sac security knows that danger thats why we had drills to know where to put up the intial corodon and if went hot as beening dirty you had to the next amount of area that you would have to set up and evactuwait. This should be hard to prove by looking up in the Santonio news papers. I saw the destoyed bunker area when I went to AZr in Setptember of 72. THanks to everyone who's tried to help. My cliam has been remanded back to Claims center for further study By the BVA.I should hear from them soon and if I win Illtry to help others mine's 6 years old. And I intend to win thats what the Air Force taught me. TIM [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: John A Falasca Jr. (FTW) [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:14:44 08/01/06 Tue >> I am frustrated at nonsense the Va gives us in our >search for the answeres to our health problems that >those of us that served in the secret war of Thailand >Loas.Its as if we are traitors for asking for what we >earned so many years ago.At NKP there was a55galon >drum that had redish-orange markings on the top and >bottom rings and a reflective white ring in the middle >ring and I have picture of it behind mortar pit three >where I worked as agunner. Have seen this same picture >on a building out side of than sanut Vietnam in >picture Dennis Cooke displayed on VSPA site. And >beside this barrel are others marked in colors of >pink,blue.green,purple and one with a small orange >ring about mid way. Now I'm colored blind to a degree >but I could make out the colors.CIA was on NKP and >they flew regular out of there on hellis and fixed >wing 2 engine air craft that looked like c123.I and a >large group went to a SF camp that was in the middle >of the mekong river at the LOAS and Cambodian borders >tpo train with SF men to be prepared to go to Phenom >Phen to resuce the embassy personel and other American >Civilians and I have pictures of goin ther twice.The >Captian of SF told us that if we had vistors of the >bad type crosed over from the area towards Vietnam we >would have to fight swim or die in trying to escape >back to Thialand.The only way ther was by helicopter >so we carried needed supplies of cement that they >needed to build protective places for traing >insurgents and that we could not take pictures of any >asian personnel.There were no written orders becuse >this place was nonexsitence as far as the goverment >was concerned. An so is the agents that were used and >they only let Thais apply these chemicals they would >dust every other day in our hutches with apowder and >the next time would be with a liquid form that would >take tour breath away.It gave me blisters in my nose >and the area spraying of the perimeter and any other >area men were at at night time pulling duty to keep >the mosqitoes under control so as we would not >contract malaria even though you took a quine tablet >every day. But there is one VERY IMPORTANT fact that >sbeen missed any one who went threwAZR training at >Medina annex next to Lackland was exposed to radiation >contaiminated soil because of a nuclear accident at >one of bunkers was blown up and the blast destroyed >bunker in the late 50's or early 60's.It was not >anuclear blast but the explosives that set of the >nuclear reaction went ofcausing a radiatin leak. Any >one who worked Sac security knows that danger thats >why we had drills to know where to put up the intial >corodon and if went hot as beening dirty you had to >the next amount of area that you would have to set up >and evactuwait. This should be hard to prove by >looking up in the Santonio news papers. I saw the >destoyed bunker area when I went to AZr in Setptember >of 72. THanks to everyone who's tried to help. My >cliam has been remanded back to Claims center for >further study By the BVA.I should hear from them soon >and if I win Illtry to help others mine's 6 years old. >And I intend to win thats what the Air Force taught >me. TIM Tim I was sent to Lackland AFB in 69 for some kind of training with heavey weopons. I beleieved it to be called Camp Bullock or something like that, been a long time (CRS) never new of any atomic acciddent there? Anyway went from there to U-Tapoa AFB Thailand in March of 69 served with the 635th Security Police Sq. Til March of 70.While at U-Tapoa I had a bunch of differant dutys there, Guard towers, runway guard, mortor pit, bunker pit, and patrol duties with, armorded personel carries, V-100s i beleive they were called, drove them all, jeeps with 50 cals on them with no ammo for them and most with m-60s with ammo. But the best job I had there was getting the Thai Guards and SP there box lunches and wrapped up Thai food for the RTG, had that job for almost 9 months before coming back to the states. Anyway heres my story of Herbisides at U-Tapoa. The perimiter of the base, and in other areas were void of any growth what so ever. I seen with my own eyes the spraying of some kind of defoliant with what looked like a tank truck with a high pressure sprayer on it, it could spray at least a 100 ft. As it did to keep a 100ft. fire zone around the perimiter of the base. This stuff was also sprayed on all the bunkers and mortor pits. anywhere there was need for a no vegetion. It was used widely all over the base. If I remember correctly it was a orange/yellow color. Also I remember the spraying for bugs at night all through out the base at night. I have just been diagnosed with type 2 dibetes in Jan 06, also have had 2 cancer operations on the skin, melignent malinoma, and carcinoma Spelling sucks. I need proof that the stuff they spayed at the base U-Tapao was indeed agent orange, any help would be appiceated. Thanks hddocfl@aol.com [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 13:44:37 08/21/06 Mon Subject: Calling all Thailand Veterans Thailand veterans please contact me, to receive an updated version of the Thailand Cd. The CD will be released, by the end of August. Your help is needed now!!!!! I spoke with Taura King last evening. She has a request, she is asking of you. Your involvement in the Thailand issues, is desperately needed now. All of the Thailand information, was given to Congressman Evans, over a year ago and is sitting on his desk. The only thing that has come out of it, is that the DOD admits to testing AO in Thailand, during 1964-1965. Some of the information that Taura gave him, was government documents, stating spraying was started in 1953. Apparently he hasn't even seen, the Thailand CD. Needless to say, she is quite upset with them and has told them so. For those who have copies of the Thailand CD, please make copies. Hand them out to all Thailand Vets, you come in contact with. Then put your home state on them and send them to Congressman Evans. Along with the cd, write a letter demanding to know what the outcome is, on the Thailand issues. Since he has had all the information for a year. You want to know what is happening, to get the Thailand Vets recognized. As I understand it, they want to single out certain areas of service and for those who were not in the given area, will not be covered. They did this on Korea and it is wrong! The Korean Vets, have a lawsuit pending I believe, to get this changed. Taura's information covers the whole country of Thailand. She has stated to them many times, no area should be excluded. You as the veteran, have to wake these politicans up. You have to flood his Illinois office, with cd's and letters. Demanding that he look at the information and get the ball rolling. It has been passed over, for too long! Those that have retired from the military and collecting benefits, with service in Thailand. Request a cd and do the same to help, your brother in arms. With each new day, I am getting word that more and more veterans, that served in Thailand are ill. With the same service connected diseases, as the Vietnam vets have, as well as those not listed. I am also hearing from their widows, who are left behind to fight the VA, by themselves. All Thailand vets, have to stand together united, in seeing that these issues get taken care of now. You can send your letter and cd to: Moline Office - Congressman Lane Evans 1535 - 47th Avenue, Suite 5 Moline, IL 61265 Galesburg Office - Congressman Lane Evans 261 N. Broad Street, Suite 5 Galesburg, IL 61401 Decatur Office - Congressman Lane Evans 236 N. Water Street, Suite 765 Decatur, IL 62523 Let us make a difference and get the Thailand issues settled. The time is now, to move forward. Thank you for your help, from Taura, Sue, myself and those behind the scenes, that have been working very hard, to push this forward. Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: dan matchik (sad) [Edit]

Date Posted: 12:44:46 02/26/09 Thu >Subject: Calling all Thailand Veterans >I'd like to have that cd. i was at camp vayama thailand 1966-67.agent orange and malathion was used aswell as transported from there >Thailand veterans please contact me, to receive an >updated version of the Thailand Cd. The CD will be >released, by the end of August. > >Your help is needed now!!!!! > >I spoke with Taura King last evening. She has a >request, she is asking of you. Your involvement in >the Thailand issues, is desperately needed now. > >All of the Thailand information, was given to >Congressman Evans, over a year ago and is sitting on >his desk. The only thing that has come out of it, is >that the DOD admits to testing AO in Thailand, during >1964-1965. Some of the information that Taura gave >him, was government documents, stating spraying was >started in 1953. Apparently he hasn't even seen, the >Thailand CD. Needless to say, she is quite upset with >them and has told them so. > >For those who have copies of the Thailand CD, please >make copies. Hand them out to all Thailand Vets, you >come in contact with. Then put your home state on >them and send them to Congressman Evans. Along with >the cd, write a letter demanding to know what the >outcome is, on the Thailand issues. Since he has had >all the information for a year. You want to know what >is happening, to get the Thailand Vets recognized. > >As I understand it, they want to single out certain >areas of service and for those who were not in the >given area, will not be covered. They did this on >Korea and it is wrong! The Korean Vets, have a >lawsuit pending I believe, to get this changed. >Taura's information covers the whole country of >Thailand. She has stated to them many times, no area >should be excluded. > >You as the veteran, have to wake these politicans up. >You have to flood his Illinois office, with cd's and >letters. Demanding that he look at the information >and get the ball rolling. It has been passed over, >for too long! > >Those that have retired from the military and >collecting benefits, with service in Thailand. >Request a cd and do the same to help, your brother in >arms. > >With each new day, I am getting word that more and >more veterans, that served in Thailand are ill. With >the same service connected diseases, as the Vietnam >vets have, as well as those not listed. I am also >hearing from their widows, who are left behind to >fight the VA, by themselves. All Thailand vets, have >to stand together united, in seeing that these issues >get taken care of now. > >You can send your letter and cd to: > >Moline Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >1535 - 47th Avenue, Suite 5 >Moline, IL 61265 > >Galesburg Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >261 N. Broad Street, Suite 5 >Galesburg, IL 61401 > >Decatur Office - > >Congressman Lane Evans >236 N. Water Street, Suite 765 >Decatur, IL 62523 > >Let us make a difference and get the Thailand issues >settled. The time is now, to move forward. > >Thank you for your help, from Taura, Sue, myself and >those behind the scenes, that have been working very >hard, to push this forward. > >Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:29:09 09/03/06 Sun Good Morning Everyone. Happy Day!!!!!!!! I received word, that the Blue Water Navy Vets, can now be service-connected to Agent Orange. Also that they have expanded the units in Korea, that are now also eligble. I can only say, HANG IN THERE! Get your claims in! Mountains are moving and I truely believe, the Thailand, Cambodia and Laos issues, are on the horizon. Keep the pressure on! With hard work, all things are possible. Pass this on to the Navy and Korean Vets, you may know. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14416617/from/ET/ Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:16:52 -0500 CAVC Case 04-0491 Jonathan L Haas V. R james Nicholson Judges Hagel, Moorman & Lance Yesterday the Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims (CAVC) made a ruling that all Veterans that served aboard U.S. Naval ships during the Vietnam War are eligible to claim Diseases associated with exposure to Agent Orange/Dixon. A Message from Taura: WE WON__CONGRATS TO ALL OUR BLUE WATER NAVAL VETERANS--WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO BUT THIS IS A START- MY HATS OF TO NVLSP AND WE THANK THEM FOR ALLOWING US THE OPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE PROVING EXPOSRES WERE IN FACT ENCOUNTERED AMONG THE BLUE WATER NAVY DURING SERVICE OFF THE COAST OF NAM. NVLSP ROCKS!!!!!!!! PLEASE GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW--VITAL INFO. TAURA Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:32:46 09/03/06 Sun Breaking News!!!!!! Attention All Veterans Good morning to you all. It is a very good morning, that I can come to you and announce, that THAILAND, CAMBODIA and LAOS Veterans, are going to be service-connected. With the Blue Water Navy decision, of last week, these three countries, have also been added to the list. It has come as a big shock, because we were not expecting it, at this time. The attny, had all the Thailand information and when he had the chance, during this case, he also presented our information. Right now, Taura is trying to get everything confirmed and in writing and I will be posting several e-mails, with the information. Taura asked me to tell you, that there maybe some problems, because of the DOD dates, but not to worry about them, because they do not have the final say. She is prepared to get everything straightened out. If you haven't got your claim in, run don't walk to your nearest veterans organization and get them in. They are waiting for you! If you have a Vietnam Service Medal, you are presumed to have been exposed. If you do not have one, apply for it. Save the paper work. It takes up to a year to received it. At least you will have the documentation, even though you don't have the medal. Also, if you have one of the International Medals, you can also apply for the Vietnam Service Medal. This ruling has been reinstated. Check this site out. It gives you the quailifying list of approved Agent Orange diseases, you can put claims in for. http://www.silverrose.info/qualifying%20diseases.html Even if you are ill and it is not on this list. Please, please put your claim in. This is the only way they will know, what different ones are out there. To all of you, congratulations. Without your help and support, we would not be here, at this moment in time. Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:40:24 09/03/06 Sun Urgent Attention---Blue Water Navy Rating---Thailand--Laos--Cambodia and All Others Good morning to you all. It is a very good morning, that I can come to you and announce, that THAILAND, CAMBODIA and LAOS Veterans, are going to be service-connected. With the Blue Water Navy decision, of last week, these three countries, have also been added to the list. It has come as a big shock, because we were not expecting it, at this time. The attny, had all the Thailand information and when he had the chance, during this case, he also presented our information. Right now, Taura is trying to get everything confirmed and in writing and I will be posting several e-mails, with the information. Taura asked me to tell you, that there maybe some problems, because of the DOD dates, but not to worry about them, because they do not have the final say. She is prepared to get everything straightened out. If you haven't got your claim in, run don't walk to your nearest veterans organization and get them in. They are waiting for you! If you have a Vietnam Service Medal, you are presumed to have been exposed. If you do not have one, apply for it. Save the paper work. It takes up to a year to received it. At least you will have the documentation, even though you don't have the medal. Also, if you have one of the International Medals, you can also apply for the Vietnam Service Medal. This ruling has been reinstated. Check this site out. It gives you the quailifying list of approved Agent Orange diseases, you can put claims in for. http://www.silverrose.info/qualifying%20diseases.html Even if you are ill and it is not on this list. Please, please put your claim in. This is the only way they will know, what different ones are out there. To all of you, congratulations. Without your help and support, we would not be here, at this moment in time. Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 08:46:08 09/03/06 Sun >Urgent Attention---Blue Water Navy >Rating---Thailand--Laos--Cambodia and All Others Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:07:09 -0700 Ok everyone--here you are--I just got home from work and we have heard from NVLSP-Nation Veterans Legal Service Program--they are the ones that fought this battle for you. Again this was not just about Thailand but ended up being about all location outside of Nam due to the challenge of the M-21 rule. Congrats --but know Sue and I will still be submitting the evidence to help establish locations and time frames in-order to help protect all of you so limits are on time frames and locations are not an issue. We do not want anyone excluded who were in areas known to have been affect by herbicides. Plus we want to make sure this issue regarding TLC veterans does not get swept under the carpet. I am so very proud of this decision--tons of hard work has gone into this by many -- BUT NVLSP had the faith and developed it and fought for all veterans as a whole--They are simply kick butt people and a God send-- Taura ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: Blue Water Navy Ruling Hello, In the past I was copied on some emails concerning presumptive service connection for Agent Orange related disabilities of Blue Water Navy veterans. I have some excellent news! Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims ruled favorably in our case in which we challenged the VA’s policy requiring veterans to have set foot in Vietnam in order to qualify for the presumption. After analyzing the Court’s decision, we have prepared the memorandum below. The first part explains the background of the case and the Court decision. The second part contains our advice about what action veterans should take regarding their claims. I recommend seeking the assistance of a veterans service officer (VSO) to help veterans take the relevant action described below. You can contact a VSO by calling the VA’s general information number, 1-800-827-1000, which will put you in touch with the nearest VA Regional Office. Be sure to ask for a VSO (who is not affiliated with the VA) from an organization such as the American Legion, Vietnam Veterans of America, Military Order of the Purple Heart, etc. We are posting this memorandum on our website as well. I hope this information is helpful. Sincerely, Richard V. Spataro Staff Attorney National Veterans Legal Services Program 1600 K Street, NW, Suite 500 Washington, DC 20006-2833 Tel: (202) 265-8305, ext. 149 Fax: (202) 328-0063 Email: rick_spataro@nvlsp.org *Licensed in Virginia - representation in the District of Columbia limited to matters and proceedings before federal courts and agencies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NVLSP Attorneys Win Haas v. Nicholson – “Blue Water” Navy Veterans Entitled to the Presumption of Exposure to Agent Orange In an August 16, 2006 decision, the United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims (CAVC) held that Vietnam veterans who served in the waters off Vietnam (these class of veterans are known as “Blue Water” Navy veterans) are entitled to disability benefits for diseases related to exposure to Agent Orange. Prior to this decision, the VA had taken the position that veterans had to step foot on Vietnamese soil in order to be entitled to the presumption of exposure to Agent Orange. The veteran in this case, Jonathan L. Haas, Commander, USNR (Retired), served in the waters offshore Vietnam and received the Vietnam Service Medal. The veteran claimed that his diabetes mellitus and complications were related to his exposure to Agent Orange that drifted from the shore. Attorneys Louis J. George and Barton F. Stichman of National Veterans Legal Services Program (NVLSP) represented Commander Haas. Background: The Agent Orange Act of 1991 provides that veterans who served “in the Republic of Vietnam” from January 9, 1962, to May 7, 1975, are presumed to have been exposed to Agent Orange, meaning that these veterans are entitled to disability benefits (medical benefits as well as service-connected disability compensation) for diseases related to Agent Orange (such as type II diabetes mellitus, prostate cancer, and lung cancer, among other illnesses). A long-standing provision of the VA Adjudication Procedure Manual M21-1 (called the M21-1 manual), which is the “Bible” for those VA workers who adjudicate claims at the 57 VA Regional Offices, provided that “service in Vietnam” will be conceded, in the absence of contradictory evidence, if the veteran received Vietnam Service Medal, and as long as that service did not consist exclusively of “fly-over” duty. VA Adjudication Procedure Manual M21-1, Part III, para. 4.24g. (Change 76, June 1, 1999). The M21-1 Manual went on to state that even if the veteran did not receive the Vietnam Service Medal, the VA Regional Office was required to research the ship’s activities to determine whether “the ship was in the waters offshore Vietnam” in order to apply the favorable presumption. Similar M2-1 manual provisions existed as early as November 1991. The 2002 Revisions to the M21-1: Without public notice and comment, in February 2002 the VA withdrew the M21-1 Manual provision. The VA replaced it with a provision stating that service in Vietnam would not be conceded unless the evidence showed that the veteran actually stepped foot on land in Vietnam. Because veteran Haas filed his claim for service connection for diabetes mellitus in 2001, the favorable Manual M21-1 provision applied to his claim for service connection Since the February 2002 revision (and in some cases even earlier) the VA has taken the position that in order for a Vietnam veteran to be presumed to have been exposed to Agent Orange, the veteran must demonstrate that he or she actually set foot in Vietnam. This is often very difficult for Navy and Air Force veterans, as they may have actually had duty or visitation in Vietnam, but they cannot prove it. Records verifying their claims, such as in-country medical records, may have been destroyed. The VA, to adjudicate this type of claim, has been doing two things adverse to veterans. First, the VA regional offices have been denying service connection for initial claims. Second, the VA regional offices have been reviewing claims that were previously granted and, if the VA determined that the veteran did not step foot in the Republic of Vietnam, service connection for the disability based on exposure to Agent Orange would be severed (taken away). The Haas Decision: The Board of Veterans’ Appeals (BVA or Board) denied Mr. Haas’ claim for service-connected disability compensation based on exposure to Agent Orange. The Board held that although the veteran served in Vietnamese waters, since he did not step foot on shore in Vietnam, service connection for his diabetes and residuals was not warranted. In 2003, NVLSP, in a case similar to that of Mr. Haas, represented a Navy widow before the CAVC and won her benefits when the VA settled her case. Commander Haas retained NVLSP in 2005 to represent him before the CAVC. In its decision, the Court reversed the Board's determination that the veteran was not entitled to the presumption of exposure to Agent Orange and remanded the matter to the BVA for readjudication of the veteran’s claim. The Court held: (1) 38 U.S.C. § 1116(f) is not clear on its face concerning the meaning of the phrase "service in the Republic of Vietnam." Accordingly, the statute is ambiguous, and the Secretary may promulgate regulations to resolve that ambiguity so long as the regulations reasonably interpret both the language of the statute and the intent of Congress in enacting the legislation. (2) 38 U.S.C. § 1116(f) does not by its terms limit application of the presumption of service connection for Agent Orange exposure to those who set foot on the soil of the Republic of Vietnam. (3) The Secretary's regulations, while a permissible exercise of his rulemaking authority, do not clearly preclude application of the presumption to a member of the Armed Forces who served aboard a ship in close proximity to the land mass of the Republic of Vietnam. (4) The provisions of the VA Adjudication Procedure Manual in effect at the time the veteran filed his claim in 2001 entitled him to a presumption of service connection based upon his receipt of the Vietnam Service Medal. (5) The VA’s attempt to rescind that version of the M21-1 provision more favorable to the veteran was ineffective because the VA did not comply with the notice and comment requirements of the Administrative Procedures Act (APA), 5 U.S.C. § 706(2)(A). (6) If service connection for diabetes mellitus is granted upon remand to the Board, secondary service connection must be considered for the veteran's claims of peripheral neuropathy, nephropathy, and retinopathy. Advocacy Advice: It is unclear whether the VA will appeal the Court’s decision in Haas, and the VA may amend their regulations in the future in a way that is adverse to veterans who otherwise would have benefited from the Court’s decision in Haas. It is clear that the negative change to the M21-1 has no force and effect because it was promulgated unlawfully. As of this writing, Haas is the “law of the land” and therefore it must be followed by the VA. Quick action by advocates is essential. Because the VA may issue a negative regulation, claims based on presumptive exposure to Agent Orange need to be filed before the VA can finalize a negative regulation. Veterans and advocates seeking service connection for diseases as a result of Agent Orange exposure (as well as those seeking to have their benefits restored) are encouraged to take the following steps: For new claims: If the veteran received the Vietnam Service Medal (or its predecessor award, the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (AFEM) (Vietnam)), for service offshore the Republic of Vietnam between January 9, 1962, and May 7, 1975, that was not just overflight duty, the advocate should argue that service connection should be granted under the M21-1 provision and Haas. Even if the veteran received the Vietnam Service Medal for service in a location other than Vietnam (such as Thailand), those who represent veterans (and their survivors) should still apply for service connection, since the M21-1 provision does not outright prohibit application of the Agent Orange presumption in such cases. This type of claim may be difficult to win but should be filed. Finally, even if the veteran did not receive the Vietnam Service Medal or the AFEM, advocates should submit applications for service connection if the veteran had offshore Naval service during the above period. This is because the M21-1 provision does not preclude service connection as long as it is verified that the veteran had service offshore Vietnam. For denied claims still pending before the VA or before the Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims: If the veteran received the Vietnam Service Medal (or the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal (Vietnam)), for service offshore the Republic of Vietnam (that was not just overflight duty), the advocate should appeal any denials of service connection and severances of service connection and argue before the VA or the Court that service connection should be granted under the M21-1 provision and Haas. Even if the veteran received the Vietnam Service Medal for service in a location other than Vietnam (such as Thailand), he or she should still appeal. If the veteran did not receive the Vietnam Service Medal or predecessor award, the veteran should appeal the denial of service connection or severance action if he or she had offshore Naval service between January 9, 1962, and May 7, 1975. For claims previously denied and that are now final. For claims that were previously denied and that are now final, the veteran should file a reopened claim in order to get benefits started (or restored) as soon as possible. The advocate should cite the M21-1 provision and Haas in the claim. We suggest that the advocate not raise the issue of an earlier effective date, or claim clear and unmistakable error (CUE) in the decision that denied or severed benefits, until benefits are actually granted or restored. Once benefits have been granted or restored, the advocate should consider challenging the effective date by filing a Notice of Disagreement with the effective date and/or a motion to revise the prior VA (or Board) decision that denied the claim, or that severed service connection, on the basis of CUE. Unrepresented veterans are urged to seek the assistance of an advocate prior to taking such action. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 09:01:28 09/03/06 Sun Important Information/Combat Zone 1992 Navy & Marine Corps awards, added Thailand Hi to everyone, This will be an extra long e-mail. Please read!!!!! Attention: The e-mail at the very bottom of my comments and has very important information for you. Put it with your claims and important papers. This document identifies combat zones during the Vietnam Conflict. Thailand is listed in the combat zone, as is Cambodia. Note where the girls got this document from Navy Department Library Naval Historical Center Taura called me today from work and we had the following conversation. Taura is not trying to mislead you. She understands the Blue Water Navy decision (M-21-1. She also knows there is still allot of work to be done, on the Thailand issues, such as proving exposure. She makes clear that the window of opportunity is now yours. She also makes clear that the M21-1 issue sites--neighboring countries-- She said " where would one consider a neighboring country with regard to Vietnam, Australia--right I don't think so" we laughed. This is why the National Veterans organizations and the (NVLSP) National Veterans Legal Service Program, attorneys, are saying to get your claims in so YOUR voice can be heard, so this issue can be determined. At this point, it is agreed, we don't know what the VA, will do, Taura said, “There is talk and we all would be naive to think VA won't take action of some kind.” Taura wants me to assure you, that the fight will go on. She and all others can't say it enough-- take advantage of the opportunity and get your claims in. The National Veterans organizations, have sent out training letter's, to their VSO'S instructing them to start addressing TLC veterans claims. If your VSO has not received one of these, they can personally contact Taura. She has been asked not to release the training letter to the general public but has been given permission to release it to VSO's. They do have to show her proof, that they are, who they say they are. Their e-mail addy, has to list, their organization. They must also give her, their telephone number, and fax # for confirmation and delivery. Contact Taura at: <tdk4vets@cwnet.com>, “You must be the one in control of your destiny, so do your home work and organize your claim---address ALL of your medical issue to include any secondary conditions.” Some will do everything in their power to discourage you. Screen the VSO you are dealing with and know if you have a representative working on your behalf. It is your right, as a veteran to file a claim. This is not the same as the Mean's test. Claims are separate issues. Now a message from me! I have been telling you all along, that we have to remain united and work towards getting the TLC issues resolved. You know the truth and all that took place there and the truth will prevail. Like I said before, you have to tell your stories. These government agency's, need to hear from you. Send your copies, of the Statement in Support of Claim form to Taura, as soon as you can. Privacy is her up most concern and she will protect it. What is it that she wants from you??? 1) Any of your military documents showing other units having served in your location—this is vital as you know due to the way the law affected Korean Cold War veterans, many were not considered under the law and it has been a huge effort to get additional units added to their list and Taura makes clear that this is what is going to happen to TLC veterans if we aren’t very careful in our approach on this issue—Taura discussed this issue with Congressman Evans office and this is in fact where some are heading with this so we must head this problem off and back our brothers and sisters up with solid documents. Taura has asked that all of you look at your records for anything reflecting this info such as promotion documents, which can tend to reflect you and others that were up for promotion, these documents can tend to list other squadrons. 2) A statement of claim form telling your story and back it up with any documentation you can. Since we first asked you for these about a year ago Taura has only received 5 official statements. She receives your e-mails with your stories but this can not be presented as a legal document and therefore can not be used. The statement of claim form is not something any of you will see on the cd as they have privileged info on them. She has attained permission to sanitize them from some —thereby removing personal info so they can be placed on the cd in order to assist other veterans. 3) Go to other internet sites where they have posted unit info and ask what formal documentation they have relating to units having served in TL or C. Ask if they will release it to you and get it to Taura. Taura King 7956 Snow Drop Ave Redding, CA 96003 Taura, Sue and many others have been working on these issues, for a very long time, way before I came into the picture. One thing I know personally is—these girls are not going away. They are nothing but determined. They are in for the long haul and they will let nothing get in their way. They dig into government files; Taura has long deemed Sue as having a nose like a hound dog which is how she earned her nick name "Hound dog." Taura has been putting it all together, for presentations. There are many others working in the background. Contacts these girls have made with officials and many others, we will never know about because they have an obligation to maintain trust and confidentiality among those working diligently to help the TLC veterans. They are putting their time and energy into this project, for you! They are truly committed to you, the veteran, who has been forgotten. Your time is now! Use it to your benefit! What the VA ends up doing in the future, is irrelevant, at this time. We are being told to tell you, get your claims in and that is what we must do. I can only say that there are people at high levels working with these girls and others that are on your side. They are continuing to work on your behalf, knowing there is still allot of issues to be resolved. Many of you didn't think we stood a chance, of getting anything done, over a year ago. Look how far, we have come, in that time. Yes, many of you still have doubts, but why let this opportunity pass you by? Those that have seen the original cd are amazed at the information on it. The updated cd will be even better. These committee's and people that need to know, will also be getting copies. I have to tell you, if you haven't read the reports on the cd you are missing out on allot of information. If you missed the radio program, with Taura, Wednesday night, you missed her comment, that Agent Blue, was used at all the installations, in Thailand. Along the perimeters, flight-lines and road ways and she has the official documentation and it will be on the updated cd. I am sending the site for the radio program, if you would still like to hear it. http://stream.projectshad.com/nph-stream.cgi?svr082306.mp3.m3u I cannot say this enough, we need to stand united and show a strong front. We all need to participate, whether it is letter writing, calling congressman and senators, or doing whatever we are asked to do, to get this accomplished. If we become divided, we will not be able to hold it together. We have all come together as strangers, fighting for a cause, that we believe to be right. We can't fail now! It is onward and upward, from here on out. You have been in the dark for too long and now there is a stream of sunlight shinning through. Let’s open that window further and really let the sun shine through. UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL. Blessings Marilyn IMPORTANT DOCUMENT FOR THE TLC GROUP--NOTE WHO SENT THIS TO SUE AND TAURA > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: <tdk4vets@cwnet.com> > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:08 PM > Subject: Combat Zone 1992 Navy & Marine Corps Awards > added Thailand CBAF58BF70FEDD4699C708C19057102405A7D1A7@naeawnydex16va.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil We don't know the mileage of the combat zone and can't find that information in any of our sources, but some sources mention coordinates of the combat zone. If you have a good map maybe the following information will help. The Navy and Marine Corps Awards Manual (1992) defines the "area of operations" for Vietnam as: Water areas from a point on the east coast of Vietnam at the juncture of Vietnam with China southeastward to 21° N latitude, 108° 15' E longitude; thence southward to 18° N latitude, 108° 15' E longitude; thence southeastward to 17° 30' N latitude, 111° E longitude; thence southward to 11° N latitude, 111° E longitude; then southwestward to 7°N latitude, 105° E longitude, thence westward to 7° N. latitude, 103° E longitude; thence northward to 9° 30' N latitude, 103° E longitude; thence northeastward to 10° 15' N latitude, 104° 27' E longitude; thence northward to a point on the west coast of Vietnam at the juncture of Vietnam with Cambodia. In addition, the area has been extended to include the land mass encompassing Thailand. Best wishes, Navy Department Library Naval Historical Center 805 Kidder Breese St. SE Washington Navy Yard, DC 20374-5060 202-433-4132, fax 202-433-9553 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 09:05:25 09/03/06 Sun Information on Exposure Outside Of Vietnam What If I Was Exposed to an Herbicide Outside Vietnam? Herbicides were used by the U.S. military to defoliate military facilities in the U.S. and in other countries as far back as the 1950s. Even if you did not serve in Vietnam, you can still apply for service-connected benefits if you were exposed to an herbicide while in the military which you believe caused your disease or injury. If you have a disease which is on the list of diseases which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange, the VA requires: a medical diagnosis of a disease which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange (listed below), competent evidence of exposure to a chemical contained in one of the herbicides used in Vietnam (2,4-D; 2,4,5-T and its contaminant TCDD; cacodylic acid; or picloram), and competent medical evidence that the disease began within the deadline for that disease (if any). If you have a disease which is not on the list of diseases which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange, VA requires: competent medical evidence of a current disability; competent evidence of exposure to an herbicide during military service; and competent medical evidence of a nexus (causal relationship) between the herbicide exposure and the current disability. Boots in country and neighboring countries is the issue to me and the platform for which I will take my stand. Note the VA instruction from 2005--go to the web site and copy this and make sure it is on the VERY FRONT of your evidence packet. A lack of consistency is a problem with in the system and all will have to deal with this. So help direct your claim, you need to pull out the laws that apply to and instruction you have attained on their site. VA Laws which apply: Section (1) 3.102 3.304--section e-or d the one titled COMBAT Combat zones M21-1 old law and the 2002 change 3.309--in reference to 3.309 go to US Title/Code 38-1116 and copy what herbicides are approved--Orange, Blue, White, Cs. Napalm, Malathion Section (2) Claim details What conditions are you claiming--dates secondary conditions--medical documentation and so on Section (3) Haas vs Nicholson and make your argument in you letter-- Boot in country Neighboring countries Copy all info you have received from NVLSP, American Legion and so on Combat Zone--which I sent to the group already but it in the cd Section (4) Your military history Then lay out your evidence Your military documents Your buddy statements Any rating decisions Section (5) How you were exposed Enclosed all your evidence and all declassified info--highlight all info that pertains to any location you were in. Section (6) Insert 3.102--again reasonable doubt and restate your contention and quote : benefit of doubt Ask that the prove or disprove that were exposure were or were not encountered in service. Always highlight that which you want to bring attention to--yell highlighter get a dozen you'll need them. YOUR CLAIM # MUST BE ON EVERY PAGE OF EVERY DOCUMENT SO WE HAVE BEEN TOLD AND THE VA MEMO CERTAINLY CONFIRMS THIS taura [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 09:18:21 09/03/06 Sun Hi everyone, Taura asked me to post further information. It is quite long and has an attachment. If you would like to read it, please let me know, back channel. Also, the updated Thailand cd, will be coming out soon. It has a wealth of information on it, to help with your claims. Pleas send me your name and address and I will get one out to you, as soon as I receive it. There is no charge to veterans, for this. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate in back channeling me, to ask for help. Blessings Marilyn [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 12:01:45 09/03/06 Sun Information For Vietnam Veterans Who Received the Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal Going through the NVLSP site, last night. I came across this. I sent it to Taura and this is her response. it is saying that BOTH medals qualify--I still recommend that you file for the VSM but know you can challenge VA if they do not apply either medal and this helps support the info about the medals. Good document and all should have it for their info. http://www.nvlsp.org/Information/ArticleLibrary/AgentOrange/AO-AFEMVietnam-VietnamServiceMedal.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Raymond A Brannum [Edit]

Date Posted: 10:11:11 07/23/07 Mon My husband was station at Takhli, Tahiland, 66-67, aircraft maintenance crew chief,(EB66, B57B&C,F101-voodoo) He has diabetes/kidney disease/heart problems. I have a letter stating he wasn't there, and illness cannot be related. He has a meeting at VA/San Diego 7/24/07,his hearing on the above mentioned health challenges, he filed a claim about 2 1/2 years ago still jumping through hoops. Has anymore information come forward regarding service connected illness for those in Thailand/Laos Cambodia. I know a decision of sort came out in Sept.2006 but haven't heard anything. Just located your website this AM, I know it is late notice but anything would help. Mrs. Lynn Brannum>Information For Vietnam Veterans Who Received the >Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal > >Going through the NVLSP site, last night. I came >across this. I sent it to Taura and this is her >response. > >it is saying that BOTH medals qualify--I still >recommend >that you file for the VSM but know you can challenge >VA if they do not apply either medal and this helps >support the info about the medals. Good document >and all should have it for their info. > >http://www.nvlsp.org/Information/ArticleLibrary/AgentOr >ange/AO-AFEMVietnam-VietnamServiceMedal.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Raymond Brannum [Edit]

Date Posted: 10:13:59 07/23/07 Mon My husband was station at Takhli, Tahiland, 66-67, aircraft maintenance crew chief,(EB66, B57B&C,F101-voodoo) He has diabetes/kidney disease/heart problems. I have a letter stating he wasn't there, and illness cannot be related. He has a meeting at VA/San Diego 7/24/07,his hearing on the above mentioned health challenges, he filed a claim about 2 1/2 years ago still jumping through hoops. Has anymore information come forward regarding service connected illness for those in Thailand/Laos Cambodia. I know a decision of sort came out in Sept.2006 but haven't heard anything. Just located your website this AM, I know it is late notice but anything would help. Mrs. Lynn Brannum>Information For Vietnam Veterans Who Received the >Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal > >Going through the NVLSP site, last night. I came >across this. I sent it to Taura and this is her >response. > >it is saying that BOTH medals qualify--I still >recommend >that you file for the VSM but know you can challenge >VA if they do not apply either medal and this helps >support the info about the medals. Good document >and all should have it for their info. > >http://www.nvlsp.org/Information/ArticleLibrary/AgentOr >ange/AO-AFEMVietnam-VietnamServiceMedal.htm [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: DeWayne Seelow (udorn 7tyhrrfs 1970&1971 lymphoma cml diabetes) [Edit]

Date Posted: 11:53:12 05/10/07 Thu >Breaking News!!!!!! Attention All Veterans > >Good morning to you all. It is a very good morning, >that I can come to you and announce, that THAILAND, >CAMBODIA and LAOS Veterans, are going to be >service-connected. > >With the Blue Water Navy decision, of last week, these >three countries, have also been added to the list. > >It has come as a big shock, because we were not >expecting it, at this time. The attny, had all the >Thailand information and when he had the chance, >during this case, he also presented our information. > >Right now, Taura is trying to get everything confirmed >and in writing and I will be posting several e-mails, >with the information. > >Taura asked me to tell you, that there maybe some >problems, because of the DOD dates, but not to worry >about them, because they do not have the final say. >She is prepared to get everything straightened out. > >If you haven't got your claim in, run don't walk to >your nearest veterans organization and get them in. >They are waiting for you! > >If you have a Vietnam Service Medal, you are presumed >to have been exposed. If you do not have one, apply >for it. Save the paper work. It takes up to a year >to received it. At least you will have the >documentation, even though you don't have the medal. >Also, if you have one of the International Medals, you >can also apply for the Vietnam Service Medal. >This ruling has been reinstated. > >Check this site out. It gives you the quailifying >list of approved Agent Orange diseases, you can put >claims in for. > >http://www.silverrose.info/qualifying%20diseases.html > >Even if you are ill and it is not on this list. >Please, please put your claim in. This is the only >way they will know, what different ones are out there. > >To all of you, congratulations. Without your help and >support, we would not be here, at this moment in time. > Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: Marilyn Oliver [Edit]

Date Posted: 07:44:27 10/05/06 Thu VA Not Processing Agent Orange Claims From "Blue Water"/ ATTENTION!!!!!!!!! Hello everyone, It is coming down, that the VA is not processing claims, under the Blue Water Navy decision. This e-mail, will be quite lenghty. It is four e-mails in one. Let me stress, DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE! The NVLSP attny's are on the job. What follows is instructions from Taura and the attny. Blessings Marilyn Fact is, we knew VA would appeal and I can assure everyone that NVLSP is more than prepared to address this appeal. They would not have gone this far had they not known this would be the path VA would take and they again are prepared--will they win--it is my belief they will-- The Thailand Vets NEED TO FILE THEIR CLAIMS BASED ON LONG STANDING VA instructions which I have enclosed--if they file based on the Haas case they will be held up on their claims until this action has been decided. Taura Fw: Stay on Claims as a Result of Haas vs Nicholson Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:46:24 -0700 Ok--so this is why I keep telling all Thailand, Laos and Cambodia Veterans why they should NOT use the Haas ruling to support their claim--USE The VA LK0ong Standing Instructions-Guid Lines already In place--What If You Were Wxposure to Herbicides OUtside Of Vietnam--which I again have attached for your review. (this will follow, the next e-mail) And see the intro letter but IGNORE all the info on Haas Taura NVLSP Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 08:54:56 -0700 I have found that some of you are being refuse the right to file claims--we contacted NVLSP to report this and this is the response--also I -have sent out info on this subject to help you understand how to keep your claim from falling under the Haas case. I will also be sending out info so all of you know what to do if you are refused the right to file a claim which has already happened to a few of you. See all the content below. Taura Dear Taura and Sue, Any service officer who is refusing to file a new claim is doing a great disservice to the veteran. By waiting to file a claim, the veteran will lose the earliest effective date possible for benefits. Even if the VA delays acting on the claim, the veteran will preserve the effective date of their claim by filing ASAP. It boggles my mind that any service > officer would advise a veteran not to file immediately. I would contact the supervisor of the service officer, the national headquarters of the organization, or seek the services of another organization if the VSO refuses to file the claim. Rick Richard V. Spataro Staff Attorney National Veterans Legal Services Program 1600 K Street, NW, Suite 500 Washington, DC 20006-2833 Tel: (202) 265-8305, ext. 149 Fax: (202) 328-0063 Email: rick_spataro@nvlsp.org http://www.vba.va.gov/bln/21/Benefits/Herbicide/AOno3.htm Agent Orange - Herbicide Exposure VA’s Guide on Agent Orange Claims What is Agent Orange? Agent Orange was one of the weed-killing chemicals used by the U.S. military in the Vietnam War. It was sprayed to remove leaves from trees that enemy troops hid behind. Agent Orange and similar chemicals were known as “herbicides.” Agent Orange was applied by airplanes, helicopters, trucks and backpack sprayers. In the 1970’s some veterans became concerned that exposure to Agent Orange might cause delayed health effects. One of the chemicals in Agent Orange contained small amounts of dioxin (also known as “TCDD”), which had been found to cause a variety of illnesses in laboratory animals. More recent studies have suggested that dioxin may be related to several types of cancer and other disorders. As a Vietnam Veteran, What Kind of Benefits Can I Get? U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) pays disability compensation to Vietnam veterans with injuries or diseases that began in, or were aggravated by, their military service. These are called “service-connected” disabilities. VA has several pamphlets describing VA benefits. They are available on the Internet at: www.va.gov/publ/direc/eds/edspamph.htm. If you do not have Internet access at home, you can get free access at most public libraries. Publications are also available at your VA Regional Office or by calling these offices at 1-800-827-1000. How Much Compensation Will I Get? Monthly payment rates are based on the veteran’s combined rating for his or her service-connected disabilities. These ratings are based on the severity of the disabilities. Additional amounts are paid to certain veterans with severe disabilities (“special monthly compensation”) and certain veterans with dependents. Current and Historical Compensation Rate Tables are available on the web. What Evidence Do I Need? In an Agent Orange-based claim by a Vietnam veteran for service-connected benefits, VA requires: a medical diagnosis of a disease which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange (listed below), competent evidence of service in Vietnam, and competent medical evidence that the disease began within the deadline (if any). Who Can Get Benefits? Under the law, veterans who served in Vietnam between 1962 and 1975 (including those who visited Vietnam even briefly), and who have a disease that VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange, are presumed to have been exposed to Agent Orange. These veterans are eligible for service-connected compensation based on their service, if they have one of the diseases on VA’s list of “Diseases associated with exposure to certain herbicide agents.” This list is found in VA’s regulation, Section 3.309(e), in title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations. VA updates this list regularly based on reports from the National Academy of Sciences, an independent research and education institution. Diseases Associated With Exposure to Agent Orange These are the diseases which VA currently presumes resulted from exposure to herbicides like Agent Orange. The law requires that some of these diseases be at least 10% disabling under VA’s rating regulations within a deadline that began to run the day you left Vietnam. If there is a deadline, it is listed in parentheses after the name of the disease. Chloracne or other acneform disease consistent with chloracne. (Must occur within one year of exposure to Agent Orange). Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia Diabetes Mellitus, Type II Hodgkin’s disease. Multiple myeloma. Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Acute and subacute peripheral neuropathy. (For purposes of this section, the term acute and subacute peripheral neuropathy means temporary peripheral neuropathy that appears within weeks or months of exposure to an herbicide agent and resolves within two years of the date of onset.) Porphyria cutanea tarda. (Must occur within one year of exposure to Agent Orange). Prostate cancer. Respiratory cancers (cancer of the lung, bronchus, larynx, or trachea). Soft-tissue sarcoma (other than osteosarcoma, chondrosarcoma, Kaposi’s sarcoma, or mesothelioma). What Benefits Can My Family Get? Spina bifida birth defect In 1996, President Clinton and VA Secretary Jesse Brown asked Congress to pass legislation providing health care, monthly disability compensation, and vocational rehabilitation to the children of Vietnam veterans suffering from the serious birth defect spina bifida, which has been linked to the veterans’ exposure to Agent Orange. Congress passed the legislation, marking the first time our nation had ever compensated the children of veterans for a birth defect associated with their parent’s exposure to toxic chemicals during their military service. VA is now providing benefits to over 800 children, including minors and adults. Effective December 16, 2003, Congress authorized these benefits to children with spina bifida of certain veterans who served at or near the demilitarized zone in Korea between September 1, 1967 and August 31, 1971, because Agent Orange is known to have been sprayed in that area. Survivor Benefits Survivors of veterans (including spouses, children and dependent parents) who died as the result of a service-connected disease may be eligible for monthly Dependency and Indemnity Compensation benefits. These survivors may also be eligible for education, home loan and medical care benefits. How Can I Apply for VA Benefits? To apply for benefits, apply on-line or send the VA Regional Office a letter stating that you have a specific health problem and that you claim it is due to your exposure to Agent Orange while serving in Vietnam. This is called an informal claim and will set the effective date for your benefits payments, if your claim is granted. The VA Regional Office will then send you an application form, which you must fill out and return. To get the address of your VA Regional Office, call 1-800-827-1000. Can I Get a Representative to Advocate for Me? You may get a representative to help you present your claim to the VA. Most veterans service organizations and state and county veterans service agencies offer free representation. A listing of veterans service organizations is available on the Internet at: http://www1.va.gov/vso/. A listing of state veterans agencies is available on the Internet at: www.va.gov/partners/stateoffice/index.htm. What If My Claim is Denied? If the VA Regional Office says your disability is not service-connected or if the percentage of disability is lower than what you think is fair, you have the right to appeal to the Board of Veterans’ Appeals. The first step in appealing is to send the VA Regional Office a “Notice of Disagreement.” This Notice of Disagreement is a written statement saying that you “disagree” with the denial. Be sure your Notice includes the date of the VA’s denial letter and be sure to list the benefits you are still seeking. The Notice of Disagreement must be mailed to the VA Regional Office within one year of the VA Regional Office’s denial of your claim or you cannot appeal. In response to the Notice of Disagreement, you will get a “Statement of the Case” from the VA Regional Office. This will repeat the reasons stated in the VA’s denial letter why your claim was denied and will include the relevant VA regulations. Once you get the Statement of the Case, if you still wish to pursue your appeal, you should file a VA Form 9, “Appeal to Board Veterans’ Appeals,” which is sent to with the Statement of the Case. You have 60 days from the date on the Statement of the Case, or one year from the date the VA first denied your claim, to file the VA Form 9. Whichever date is later is your deadline. Can I Appeal Beyond the VA Regional Office? The Board of Veterans' Appeals (also known as "BVA") is a part of the VA, located in Washington, D.C. Members of the BVA review benefit claims decisions made by VA Regional Offices and issue a new decision. You may have a hearing before the BVA in Washington, DC or at your VA Regional Office. Anyone appealing to the BVA should read the "Understanding the Appeal Process" pamphlet. It explains the steps involved in filing an appeal and to serve as a reference for the terms and abbreviations used in the appeal process. The Board mails a copy of this pamphlet to anyone who appeals their case. It is also available on the Internet. Can I Appeal to a Court? If the BVA does not grant all the benefits you are seeking, you have four choices: decide not to pursue your claim 2. appeal to the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims 3. ask the BVA to reconsider its decision or 4. reopen your case at the VA Regional Office with new and material evidence. Appeal to the Court You may appeal to the Court only if BVA has denied some or all of your benefits. You may not appeal a BVA decision to remand your claim back to the VA Regional Office. You must file your appeal by mail or by fax. Send your name, address, phone number, and the date of the BVA decision to: Clerk of the Court U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims 625 Indiana Avenue NW Washington DC 20004 Fax number: (202) 501-5848 To get a list of veterans’ representatives who practice at the Court, and for more information on the Court, see the Court’s web site at http://www.vetapp.uscourts.gov/AboutCourt/HowToAppeal.asp. This list is also available by calling the Court at 1-800-869-8654. Ask BVA to reconsider The BVA will reconsider its denial decision, if it finds an “obvious error of fact or law” in that decision. Such a request should be sent to the BVA. Reopen your case If you can get additional evidence that is both new and material, you can reopen your claim at the VA Regional Office and get a new decision. What If I Served in Vietnam and Have a Disease Not on VA’s List If you served in Vietnam and believe that you have a disease caused by herbicide exposure, but that disease is not on VA’s list of diseases associated with herbicides like Agent Orange, you may still apply for service-connection. Such a veteran needs to establish entitlement to service connection on a “direct” (rather than “presumptive”) basis. In these cases, VA requires: competent medical evidence of a current disability; competent evidence of exposure to an herbicide in Vietnam; and competent medical evidence of a nexus (causal relationship) between the herbicide exposure and the current disability. What If I Was Exposed to an Herbicide Outside Vietnam? Herbicides were used by the U.S. military to defoliate military facilities in the U.S. and in other countries as far back as the 1950s. Even if you did not serve in Vietnam, you can still apply for service-connected benefits if you were exposed to an herbicide while in the military which you believe caused your disease or injury. If you have a disease which is on the list of diseases which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange, the VA requires: a medical diagnosis of a disease which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange (listed below), competent evidence of exposure to a chemical contained in one of the herbicides used in Vietnam (2,4-D; 2,4,5-T and its contaminant TCDD; cacodylic acid; or picloram), and competent medical evidence that the disease began within the deadline for that disease (if any). If you have a disease which is not on the list of diseases which VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange, VA requires: competent medical evidence of a current disability; competent evidence of exposure to an herbicide during military service; and competent medical evidence of a nexus (causal relationship) between the herbicide exposure and the current disability. VA Medical Care Even if you decide not to file a claim for VA compensation benefits based on Agent Orange, you can still get a free physical examination at the nearest VA Medical Center. This is called the Agent Orange Registry Exam. This exam consists of four parts: an exposure history, a medical history, laboratory tests and a physical exam of those body systems most commonly affected by toxic chemicals. This exam might detect diseases which can be treated more effectively the earlier they are diagnosed. You may also be entitled to free ongoing medical treatment at a VA medical facility. Information on VA health care is available on the Internet at: www.va.gov/vbs/health/index.htm. A listing of all VA medical facilities is available on the Internet. Social Security Benefits The Social Security Administration (SSA) offers both disability insurance benefits and supplemental security income benefits. Veterans can receive both Social Security disability insurance benefits and VA disability compensation. (The supplemental security income benefit (SSI) is offset for VA pension or compensation.) Unlike VA compensation benefits that are measured in degrees of disability, SSA benefits require a total disability that will last at least one year. If you cannot work because of your disability, contact the nearest district office of SSA at 1-800-772-1213. SSA benefits information is available on the Internet at http://www.ssa.gov/. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: bruce king (if you have a mailing list ,please put me on it...) [Edit]

Date Posted: 10:38:00 10/24/06 Tue >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: James Lx. DeClue (Great job) [Edit]

Date Posted: 22:15:56 12/07/06 Thu >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > I only wish that you could help the korea vets 1968/69 that were exposed to herbiside spraying at Camp Humphrey's K-6 in September 1968. Checker board painted water tower accross from Headquarters 23d DSG. > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not beenI >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: James l. declue (happy day) [Edit]

Date Posted: 23:26:54 12/07/06 Thu Camp Humphrey's Korea 1968/69 aug68 anybody witnessing ROK army spraying trees around checkerboard painted water tower accross form 23d dsg Headquarters please contact me .. >If you were in country i.e. K-6 area 1968/69 and used EM transit or Officers billets at this time you may have problems!> DeClue Officers Billeting NCOIC >> >>, >> >> >>AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >>ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. >> >>Author: Taura >>I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >>witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >>me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >>Am working to shore up a few week points in the >>research project and this is one of them--I have them >>currently located in three places let me hear from >>you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >>nearing it's completion and the new info collected >>will be submitted to officials in the near >>future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >>ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >>another request I have recieved from officials which >>they want your in put on. Your statements make a >>diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >>know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >>doubt there are those listening. Taura >> I only wish that you could help the >korea vets 1968/69 that were exposed to herbiside >spraying at Camp Humphrey's K-6 in September 1968. >Checker board painted water tower accross from >Headquarters 23d DSG. >> >>Author: Taura >>Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >>of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >>Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >>documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >>I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >>info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >>and adding additional info to the cd that has not >beenI >>added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >>cd in the next two weeks. >> >>For those of you with additional evidence that you >>believe could be of help to others which you would >>like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >>and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >>collection of compelling gov. documents. >> >>I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >>relating to the environment. >> >>I also want to thank all the veterans for having >>helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >>and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >>several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >>veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >>scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >>equal concern. >> >>All of you need to know that VA now has info and >>conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >>that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >>to get this expanded and officially added to the law. >> >>Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com >> >> >> >>TVVET >> >>Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >>myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >>Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >>post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >>those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >>seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >>other compelling information. The response we received >>was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >>informative, others led us to different information >>and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >>thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >>and give you an update as to what happened with the >>information you sent us. >> >>We completed a 150 page report that includes >>documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >>eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >>Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >>Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >>air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). >> >>There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >>the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >>out of concern that the information could disappear. >>There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >>dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >>1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >>the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >>after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >>era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >>when they die regardless of the cause of death. >>Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >>a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >>is to have scientific information on the effects the >>dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >>the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >>fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >>have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >>necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >>that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >>herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >>there will be evidence of it through the report of the >>health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >>death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >>that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >>their handlers worked. >> >>On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >>of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >>out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >>Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >>Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. >> >>A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >>and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >>try and find location on the internet where the report >>can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >>as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >>let you know and where to find it. >> >>A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >>the report, so we established a method of selecting >>the ones used. >>The prioritizing was as follows: >> >> 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >>with other testimonies that were received from >>veterans who served on different bases at >>different times >> >> 2) Testimonies that matched Government >>Documentation that we received >> >> 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >>barrels and or spraying it. >> >> 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >>information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >>of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on >> >>We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >>addresses on every testimony that was used. >> >>Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >>not used in the report it does not mean it did not >>have value. Every survey we received back contributed >>to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >>thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >>your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >>them made a valuable contribution. >> >> >>Thank you so much, >> >>David F. Adams >>TVVET >> >> >>I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >>JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >>TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. >> >>THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >>FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >>HONORED LADIES. >> >>I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >>FURTHER DETAILS. >> >>BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Richard LaQuay (Very Happy for your Research !) [Edit]

Date Posted: 10:14:04 04/27/07 Fri First I would like to thank you for your caring and extensive time you have taken to research the use of agent orange and other chemicals used in Thailand. I currently have a claim filed with the VA for oral carcinoma and Type 2 diebetes and other problems associated agent orange contact. Since most of the chemicals were sprayed normally with fixed wing aircraft I believe anyone could have been affected by these chemicals. I currently am seeking more updated proof I can submit to support my claim. I was statione at NKP Thailand for "70 - 71". Would appreciate any help on this matter. Thank You...Richard LaQuay [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Gary L Marano (Working on claim of periferal Neuropathy VA) [Edit]

Date Posted: 22:22:51 03/15/07 Thu >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. >Hello to all TVETS..............after developing periferal neuropathy in my 50's and not getting any satisfactory reason why I have it my VA doctor was changed and I got a new one and when heard that I was in SEA he ordered a test at the clinic...........I immediately went to my local VA affairs office and filed two claims one for the neuropathy and another for loss of hearing from working around jet aircraft. It sounds promising...........I think that the VA is loosing up on Thailand and they can't keep the secret anymore.................wish me luck....Sgt Gary Marano 8th TFS Ubon Thailand 67/68 > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Lance Taylor [Edit]

Date Posted: 20:44:09 11/10/07 Sat Stationed at Utapio 70 to 71. Walking to the barracks from the club. Walked right through a cloud of spray from the truck going around the base spraying for bugs. Now have type II diabetis. How would you start to prove that it was (2,4-D; 2,4,5-T and its contaminant TCDD; cacodylic acid; or picloram) Any ideas out there? My guess it would be hard to find any info on what exactly was being sprayed. Thanks to the folks who are working on this. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: Mackie D. Bailey Jr. (need documents for moms dic) [Edit]

Date Posted: 12:31:47 02/14/09 Sat >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER Please send me some documents for udorn air base, my dad was there and died suddenly of ardenal carcinoma metastic,he had it all over him i have a claim in and was declined, i appealed and now there alot of good news, please help me to get the info i need to help my mom. I support my Mom now, its cruel the way they did her but i will deal with it. Please i await a message, thanks Mack Jr. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: William Holmes [Edit]

Date Posted: 21:13:07 08/02/09 Sun Sorry to come in so late. Just found the website. Are you still looking for information? I was in K-9 at Phan Rang AB,RVN 1971 where we used dip tanks for dogs and had jeeps driving around the base towing sprayers which produced clouds of mosquito insectide (right on us.) Also was at Udorn RTAFB 73-74, K-9. Air America was reportedly immediately adjacent to the main base. I do not immediately recall how or if insecticide was used there. vaguely remember kennels were cleaned with substance that killed the large Gecko lizards. >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: TAURA KING'S RESEARCH AND TVVET UPDATE

Author: Michael J. Houghton (Depressed) [Edit]

Date Posted: 07:45:07 10/25/09 Sun >I AM COMING TO YOU TODAY, WITH EXCITING UPDATES. BOTH >TAURA KING'S GROUP AND THE TVVET GROUP, HAVE ADVANCED >OUR CAUSE. IT IS SUCH WONDERFUL NEWS, FOR ALL OF US. > > >I WILL BE SENDING UPDATES FROM DAVID ADAMS AND ALSO >TAURA KING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WHERE WE >STAND, AT THIS POINT. > >EVERYONE INVOLVED, WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR >YOUR HELP. WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE >AT THIS TIME. REMEMBER THIS IS NOT FOR US, BUT FOR >ALL OF YOU. WE HAVE BEEN HONORED TO DO THIS. > >Author: Taura >I am trying to document all the locations our veterans >witnessed Air America at in Thailand--please contact >me if you have any knowledge on this subject. >Am working to shore up a few week points in the >research project and this is one of them--I have them >currently located in three places let me hear from >you. Thanks to all your efforts this project is >nearing it's completion and the new info collected >will be submitted to officials in the near >future--some of the evidence was submitted 2 months >ago additional evidence was added recently and this is >another request I have recieved from officials which >they want your in put on. Your statements make a >diference believe me--I have done this long enough to >know the power in the veterans testimonies--have no >doubt there are those listening. Taura > > >Author: Taura >Hi everyone--It has come time to announce the release >of our cd containing the Thailand evidence. Agent >Pinki and Green dating back to 1953--1964 and other >documents showing herbicides in Thailand up to 67. >I want to Thank Marilyn--she has helped to get the >info scanned and on to a cd. I will be looking it over >and adding additional info to the cd that has not been >added as of yet. I am in hopes I will be done with the >cd in the next two weeks. > >For those of you with additional evidence that you >believe could be of help to others which you would >like to see added to the cd feel free to forward it >and I will download it onto the cd. It currently has a >collection of compelling gov. documents. > >I would be interested in any soil reports or findings >relating to the environment. > >I also want to thank all the veterans for having >helped in this collection of info, my two buddies, Sue >and Ginny who have worked night and day with me on >several veterans projects with unreal devotion to our >veterans and their needs. Marilynn took on the job of >scanning inorder that I could scan other projects of >equal concern. > >All of you need to know that VA now has info and >conceedes that herbicides were present in 64-65--but >that is not enough for me nor for you--we are looking >to get this expanded and officially added to the law. > >Taura tdk4vets@cwnet.com > > > >TVVET > >Six months ago at a veteran's reunion three men and >myself decided to pursue the issue of the use of Agent >Orange in Thailand. On of the first things we did was >post a survey on the internet in hopes of reaching >those who have been effected by Agent Orange, remember >seeing defoliants used, or have specific evidence or >other compelling information. The response we received >was very positive. Some of the surveys were extremely >informative, others led us to different information >and other people. Many were heart breaking. We want to >thank all of you for your contribution to this effort, >and give you an update as to what happened with the >information you sent us. > >We completed a 150 page report that includes >documentation of Agent Orange testing in Thailand and >eyewitness testimonies from the surveys. Also Air >Force documents clearly referencing Operation Ranch >Hand missions being flown from at least 3 of the seven >air bases (NKP, Udorn, and Takhli). > >There was one other area of evidence that may prove to >the "smoking gun," and one we did not broadcast openly >out of concern that the information could disappear. >There were more than 500 Air Force Sentry and Patrol >dogs deployed to Thailand. They began arriving in >1968, and all but perhaps a dozen were destroyed in >the period of 1975-1976 when the U.S. let Thailand >after the fall of Saigon. As any dog handler from that >era knows, all dogs are given a necropsy (autopsy) >when they die regardless of the cause of death. >Everyone of those dogs that were destroyed were given >a very detailed necropsy. The purpose of the necropsy >is to have scientific information on the effects the >dog food, weather, parasites, and environment had on >the dogs. Those reports, which include studies of >fluid and tissue samples, still exist on microfilm. We >have asked Congress to conduct a study of those >necropsies, just as the necropsy reports on the dogs >that were in Vietnam were studied. We believe if >herbicides with dioxins were used on bases in Thailand >there will be evidence of it through the report of the >health conditions of those dogs at the point of their >death. After all, it was the perimeter of the bases >that were defoliated. and that is where the dogs and >their handlers worked. > >On April 30, 2005, the thirth anniversary of the end >of the war in Vietnam, we officially rolled the report >out and submitted it to the office of Congressman Lane >Evans, the Ranking member of the U.S. House of >Representatives Committee on Veterans Affairs. > >A word on the report, the file size is nearly 8,000 KB >and for that reason is not emailable. We are going to >try and find location on the internet where the report >can be posted for reading and/or downloading.As soon >as know if this is going to be feasible or not we will >let you know and where to find it. > >A WORD ON THE SURVEYS We could not use every survey in >the report, so we established a method of selecting >the ones used. >The prioritizing was as follows: > > 1) Testimonies that confirmed or were consistent >with other testimonies that were received from >veterans who served on different bases at >different times > > 2) Testimonies that matched Government >Documentation that we received > > 3) Testimonies that included seeing Agent Orange >barrels and or spraying it. > > 4) Testimonies that cited very detailed >information such as dates, squadron #s, descriptions >of what the dead ground cover was like to walk on > >We removed the home address, phone numbers, and email >addresses on every testimony that was used. > >Please understand that if your testimony/survey was >not used in the report it does not mean it did not >have value. Every survey we received back contributed >to this effort. Some pointed us in directions we never >thought of going to. We want you to be assured that >your efforts were not a waste of your time. All of >them made a valuable contribution. > > >Thank you so much, > >David F. Adams >TVVET > > >I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, DAVID ADAMS, BILL CUMMINGS, >JOHN HOMA AND MONTY MOORE, FOR ALLOWING ME THE HONOR >TO WORK WITH THEM, AS PART OF THE TVVET GROUP. > >THANK YOU'S, ALSO GO OUT TO TAURA KING, SUE AND GINNY, >FOR ASKING ME TO HELP WITH THEIR PROJECT. I AM VERY >HONORED LADIES. > >I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP ALL OF YOU UPDATED, TO ANY >FURTHER DETAILS. > >BLESSINGS MARILYN OLIVER Hello my name is Mike I served at NKP 69 to 70, I am 62 with lung cancer and prostrate problems, I was denied compensation even though I stopped at Ton Son Knut in Saigon, I smoked cigs and I guess that was theref basis, OH I ran across photo of two passanger planes at an airfield they both had red tail no other markings white body, thanks for trying and remembering. Mike [ Post a Reply to This Message ]