- New Miner 49'er location. -- Grizzly Dave, 19:23:23 01/11/08 Fri (pool-96-240-63-233.lsanca.fios.verizon.net/96.240.63.233)
Hey Billy fans and friends of the Miner 49'ers, during the construction near our regular stage, we have been moved to the entrance to "Bug's Land", and our showtimes have been adjusted 1/2 hour earlier to avoid "High School Musical 2" conflicts. New showtimes are 10:30AM, 11:30AM, 12:30PM, 2:00PM, 3:00PM, and 4:00PM. We're glad that Jed has joined us in our new spot, and we hope to se you all there too. bla bla plug promo yeah yeah hey!
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- I'm so bummed! -- Jan Vincent @History of the Golden Horseshoe Saloon, 23:25:54 05/17/07 Thu (cip-64-155.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.155)
This is slightly off topic but Golden Horseshoe related, none the less:
May 17, 2007 ~ Fulton Burley, an Irish tenor who for 24 years starred in the Golden Horseshoe Revue that was one of Disneyland's original attractions, died of heart failure May 7 at an assisted living facility in Carlsbad, the Walt Disney Co. announced. He was 84.
In 1962, Burley first appeared in the vaudeville-style musical comedy revue that had opened along with Disneyland in 1955. By the time the show ended its run in 1986, the Guinness Book of World Records had recognized the revue for giving the most performances — more than 45,000 — in the history of theater.
"He was a natural for it and had a delightful sense of humor," said Wally Boag, who developed the revue and performed alongside Burley for two decades. "When you went by his dressing room, you always knew you were going to hear a good joke."
At Disneyland, Burley also could be heard within the walls of the Enchanted Tiki Room as the voice of the audio-animatronic Irish parrot Michael.
Once the revue ended, Burley periodically toured the country hosting live shows to promote theatrical reissues of such Disney films as "Cinderella."
The son of a newspaperman, Burley was born in Toronto and raised in Windsor, Canada. By 14, he performed three mornings a week on the radio before school and went on to sing with the Windsor Symphony Orchestra.
He attended Patterson Collegiate Institute in Windsor and Wayne State University in Detroit but left to sing the lead in Billy Rose's "Diamond Horseshoe Revue" in New York City. He landed the part by auditioning over the telephone.
MGM scouts spotted him in the show and put him under contract. At the studio, he met Boag, and the two appeared as Canadian fliers in the 1945 film "Thrill of a Romance."
During World War II, Burley served in the Army. His commanding officer was actor Melvyn Douglas, and he traveled to China, Burma and India, according to Disney.
After the war, Burley toured the United States in musical productions for several years. He was appearing in Las Vegas when Boag called to tell him the 7-year-old show at Frontierland's Golden Horseshoe Saloon had an opening.
Walt Disney hired him, and Burley began appearing five times a day in a show performed 52 weeks a year.
"Everyone seemed to love him," Boag said, "and we had fun, always."
Burley's wife of 62 years, Terry, died in January. He is survived by a sister, Betty Doggrell, of Scarborough, Canada.
A celebration of his life is being planned.
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HAPPY NEW YEAR! -- Frima, 21:37:50 12/30/07 Sun (netblock-208-127-193-5.dslextreme.com/208.127.193.5)
Tom & I will be at the park early on New Year's Day to start the year off right! The very best of everything to everyBilly and Fan!
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- recently posted videos on Youtube -- Pat (crazy), 17:40:17 01/01/08 Tue (ppp-67-126-131-243.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net/67.126.131.243)
I have put several videos from this summer on Youtube. You can find them under pattypoor or under Billy Hill. Their show is a regular stop on my Disneyland trips.
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- Merry Christmas! -- Jan @ jansworld.net, 10:53:35 12/25/07 Tue (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
Merry Christmas to all my Billy and Disneyland family.
May 2008 bring us all more love, more joy and more fun!
May you all have your own personal
YEAR OF A MILLION DREAMS!
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SWINGTOWN REMINDER: -- Claudia, 06:58:35 12/21/07 Fri (pool-71-108-229-42.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.229.42)
Dave Eastly and Swingtown will be playing tomorrow night, Sat. Dec. 22nd, at the Carnation Plaza Gardens. Dress warm and come here some fabulous music. You can also stay warm by dancing with your favorite partner.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all.
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- Betcha didn't know it...but I'm a fiddle player...also! -- Tracy-BillyLynn, 00:02:33 12/13/07 Thu (pool-71-104-117-113.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.117.113)
This Tuesday I was plucked from the crowd and forced to perform on stage at the Golden Horseshoe with Billy Hill and The Hillbillies. Apparently I was checking them out. I was with of a group of 4 friends (two whom really wanted to be picked) and he had to pick the ONE who dreaded it the most...I wouldn't even give him eye contact during the show in hopes he wouldn't notice me...that worked well.
The day I 'fiddled' around with the Hillbillies



I managed to live through the ordeal...and looking back I think I even had fun! I just hope the fame doesn't ruin me.
*I did my time so this means I am exempt from future pickings right?
RIGHT!
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RE: DISNEY RELATED. -- Claudia, 19:49:56 12/12/07 Wed (pool-71-109-8-231.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.8.231)
A girlfriend and I have reservations at the Plaza Inn for breakfast tomorrow.
They told us that starting on Friday, there would be a Holiday surcharge tacked on. I don't know if this is just for the restaurants where reservations are necessary or all the restaurants in the park. I know that they are also doing this at WDW.
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Support your local Sallie Mae (and the sheriff, too, of course) -- Hillary Kelley, 07:00:59 12/15/07 Sat (NoHost/65.54.155.11)
This week, for the first time since I got my annual pass, the showtimes for Laughtingstock are NOT listed in the show schedule handed out at the gate. When I asked about this at guest relations, I was told that the troup may be on vacation, or working in other areas. This, as it turns out, is not true, but it wasn't until I found an entertainment manager to ask that anyone finally admitted the troup is still performing Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
The new Holiday show is a gem, and these shows well deserve their place on the publicly announced schedule. Please, if you come to DLR this week, take a few minutes to stop at guest relations and ask when Laughingstock is performing. Then, if enough inquiries are made, Disney may not omit them from the printed sheet again.
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HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE : -- Claudia, 15:41:46 11/21/07 Wed (pool-71-109-1-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.1.149)
Dennis (DA), Marti, Isabeau and I would like to wish all of you a very Happy Thanksgiving.
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- How are all my fellow Billy Friends doing with all these crazy fires? -- TracyLynn, 16:47:41 10/22/07 Mon (pool-71-104-121-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.121.127)
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NEW SWINGTOWN DATES: -- Claudia, 11:42:56 11/15/07 Thu (pool-71-109-1-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.1.149)
Here are the additonal Swingtown dates that I just received from Dave E.
Feb 9,
March 8,
April 12,
May 10,
June 14
Also don't forget December 22nd and January 26th.
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- Golden Horseshoe Related -- Jan, 09:00:51 11/01/07 Thu (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
This is Golden Horseshoe related, but I thought it was very cool, so I'm writing about it.
Last Monday night, I attended a memorial service at the Disney Studios in Burbank for GH Revue star, Fulton Burley who died in May. It was the most awesome event I have ever been to. Every past star of the Golden Horseshoe Revue was in attendance and many touching tributes were given. In attendance were GH Revue comedian Wally Boag; GH Revue tenor, Jay Meyers, GH musician, Chris Stevens; Disney animator, Tony Baxter; GH Variety Show host, Dana Daniels; GH Revue star, Dick Hardwick; entertainment boss, Stan Frees; and a host of other Disney musicians and Can-can girls from the original show.
I am hoping to get an article written soon for The History of the Golden Horseshoe Pages at Jansworld, but thought I'd share the information now.
This brings me to my next point. Next March, I am helping sponsor a Golden Horseshoe Reunon Show in Anaheim that will be in honor of Wally Boag and the original cast. Performing that night will be Dick Hardwick, Dana Daniels and our own, Kirk Wall along with other past castmembers. Tickets are available through the 1313 Club.
As soon as I have more info I will add it here. Tickets are expected to go rather quickly.
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SWINGTOWN REMINDER: -- Claudia, 07:22:42 11/01/07 Thu (pool-71-109-1-149.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.1.149)
Dave Eastly and Swingtown will be playing at Carnation Plaza Gardens, this Saturday, November 3rd. Bring your dancing shoes and join in the fun. If you don't care to dance, just come and sit with your friends and listen to some great music. See you there.
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- DA has a tail! I saw it with my own eyes and it had a red bow on it. He was at Mickey's Halloween Treat @ DCA along with Claudia and grandbaby...adorable as ever! -- TracyLynn, 19:23:09 10/28/07 Sun (pool-71-104-121-127.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.121.127)
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GAY DAYS: -- Claudia, 08:13:33 10/06/07 Sat (pool-71-109-30-200.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.30.200)
This weekend is Gay Days at the Disneyland and DCA, so don't wear red, unless you want to.
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- Fellow Billy Hill Fans..... -- Jan, 22:21:16 10/19/07 Fri (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
Dear Fellow Billy Hill fans,
The Voy message boards have been hit recently with a large number of sex-related spam messages. It's become a full time job lately just keeping up with spam-removal. I have 5 Voy Message boards of my own and just last night removed over 157 spams from my various boards.
In an effort to curb these spams temporarily [until Voy Systems gets their act together], I have briefly turned off the HTML feature of this board.
That is why you can not see photographs, etc. Be patient. I am giving it a week or two until Voy gets back to me with a better suggestion.
In the meantime, chat among yourselves!
Jan
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SWINGTOWN REMINDER: -- Claudia, 06:48:18 10/18/07 Thu (pool-71-108-225-254.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.225.254)
Dave Eastly and Swingtown will be playing at the Carnation Plaza Gardens, this Saturday, Oct. 20th. See you there.
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- KIRK WALL: LOVING FANS TENDER -- TracyLynn, 16:14:06 09/24/07 Mon (pool-71-104-254-191.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.254.191)
Soooo I did a search on The Continental Room for a project I'm working on and found an extra special treat...thought you guys would like to read this.

The nostalgic Continental Room in Fullerton showcases Elvis impersonator Kirk Wall
Kirk Wall. the "self-proclaimed best Elvis impersonator in Fullerton," serenades patrons of the Continental Room in downtown Fullerton.
Prior to going on stage, the man everyone is waiting for casually finishes off a bottle of Corona - his only pre-show ritual. As the anticipation in the room steadily builds, the stage curtain is finally opened to reveal a man adorned in a custom-made white jumpsuit. It's Kirk Wall, "the self-proclaimed, best Elvis impersonator in Fullerton."
Step into the dimly lit, intimate, nostalgic Continental Room in downtown Fullerton on a Wednesday night, and you'll be treated to what might be one of the bustling area's best-kept secrets.
"We had one guy prior to him and he was good, but he wasn't as good as Kirk," said Sean Francis, owner of the Continental Room for the past four years. "When he gets up on stage he's as close to Elvis as you can get."
Wall, who comes from a musical family, has been an Elvis Presley impersonator for 20 years and a professional performer in some form or another for even longer.
A classically trained opera singer, Wall's first experience singing was in the church choir, of which his father was the director.
"[While singing] a lot of the gospel songs, I started sounding more like Elvis than my dad wanted me to sound like," Wall said. "It was fun to make the choir laugh."
Wall was in several rock'n'roll garage bands as a youth before finding his niche as a performer with various aliases.
Besides his regular gig as Elvis at the Continental Room, the Fullerton resident also performs at Disneyland five days a week as Billy Hill and the Hillbillies.
Despite having such a diverse musical background, Wall has always had an affinity for Elvis Presley.
"Elvis, without a doubt, was always my favorite singer, and I never ever thought I would be an Elvis impersonator until I did the musical "Grease," which I've done five professional productions of," Wall said.
The Continental Room, which is at 115 W. Santa Fe Ave. lies slightly off the "strip" that is downtown Fullerton.
Established in 1925, the Continental Room, with it's vintage-style booths, full-length bar, and small stage complete with red curtain, seems a fitting a place for a good old Vegas-style Elvis show.
Wednesday nights consist of three to four sets of Wall singing live, performing Elvis tunes over tracks played by a DJ. While he's thought about incorporating non-Presley tunes into the show, for now it remains-strictly classic Elvis tunes.
"There's too many Elvis aficionados, even young ones, that might get bent out of shape," Wall said.
The show attracts everyone from curious first-timers who've heard about it to clueless patrons just looking to have a drink or to out-of-town regulars.
"People get up, they dance, they sing, it's awesome," said Francis, who also owns the nearby Slidebar on Commonwealth Avenue.
When asked if people come out specifically to see Wall's Elvis, Francis responded, "I know they do."
"I get a whole lot of return people that come regularly," said Wall, who has been the resident Elvis for about three years now.
Amy Abelaars, 22, was attending her second show and came specifically to see Wall. "We pretty much came to hear Elvis," Abelaars said. "It's just fun, even his costume is sparkling, and it's just great. We'll definitely come back."
Janette Ortiz, 21, came all the way up from San Diego just to see Elvis.
Wall, who seems to engage everyone in the room, plays it up even more when the crowd eggs him on. A true showman, it's a thrill to see him go through his set while constantly throwing quips to the crowd.
"I do a little tongue-in-cheek, not completely fully serious," Wall said. "There's too many of those guys. I think I'm a little more comfortable just being a little off."
When asked what his favorite part of being the resident Elvis at the Continental Room is, Wall said, "I appreciate seeing how much young people today are still just loving him as much as they ever have."
When asked what his least favorite part is, Wall took a breath and paused before responding, "Drunk chicks asking for me to sing 'Hound Dog.' I always do it but they never seem to hear it."
However, not wanting to end on a sour note, Wall had this to say about his experience so far here in Fullerton: "What keeps me going is how nice the Continental Room has been to me along with the patrons."
The King couldn't have said it better himself.

The night I went. Can't wait to go back! And not a one of us asked him to sing Hound Dog! ;)
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Tom and Frima plan big move! -- Frima, 16:44:30 10/01/07 Mon (cpe-75-84-229-115.socal.res.rr.com/75.84.229.115)
No, we're not getting "hitched." We finally found a "new" apartment in Anaheim (actually at the apartment complex where I used to live) and are moving this month. Tom is getting movers and is taking off work Oct 15th and 16th, but the place is officially ours as of the 8th. We'll also be out of town Halloween Week for a conference for Tom's work. Hope to be at Oct. 20 Swingtown.
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- Billy Red haunting Knott's Berry Farm -- KAT, 16:26:48 09/29/07 Sat (pool-71-102-48-206.plspca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.102.48.206)
Hi all. Sorry I haven't made it to Disneyland since renewing my annual pass last December. Last night I got to Orange County for the first time since then for the Knott's Haunt. It was fun to see one familiar face on stage. Billy Red, aka Kevin Gregg, who many of us also knew from Laughing Stock, is starring at the Bird Cage Theater as Doctor Cleaver in "Death of Doctor Cleaver". Don't worry, he doesn't just play a corpse. You won't want to miss that show if you go to the Haunt.
By the way, for the first time ever we were able to see all the Haunt shows and mazes and still ride a couple of roller coasters, which we've never managed before. Here's the trick to seeing as much as possible of the Haunt.
1. Go as early in the season as you can.
2. Get reservations at 6:00 or earlier and attend the pre-scare dinner, from which they let you into the park a few minutes before the 7:00 opening time for the rest of the public.
3. Go on the Haunt-decorated Log Ride and Mine Ride before doing anything else. These get long lines quickly, so going on them first, before the rest of the public gets in, saves you lots of line time. (We always went to the nearest mazes before and never covered the whole haunt.)
Sorry, I didn't take a camera, so will just have to post an old picture of Kevin, now "Dr. Cleaver" at his debut as Billy Red:

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Scott Gates and the Vintage play Temecula on Fri. Night Aug 10th, 7-9 pm...free show! -- Andrew G, 10:37:19 08/09/07 Thu (cache-dtc-ae12.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.16)
August 10 to August 11, 2007 - Temecula Hot Summer Nights 6 -9PM. " Old Town Temecula". Front Street, Temecula, California, 92590. Featuring: The Silverado Bluegrass Band, Cliff Wagner & The Old Number 7, The Walden Dahl Band, Sheri Lee Band, The Andy Rau Band, Mandolin Superstar Scott Gates and Vintage, Sligo Rags and much more! Temecula Hot Summer Nights Bluegrass Concert Series. ALL SHOWS ARE FREE!
Friday Night:
The Sheri Lee Band, Cliff Wagner & The Old Number 7, Sligo Rags, Scott Gates (15 Years old and a great Mandolin player. You don't miss his show in the Mecantile located in front of the new Temecula Theater) and Vintage (Just a bunch of Old Guys) featuring Mike Nadolson, Kevin Gore, Fred Wade and fiddler John Mailander.
See Scott and the Vintage play at this link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GKYy-SxyKoM
Hope you can make it for a great night of bluegrass!
Saturday Night:
The Silverado Bluegrass Band, The Andy Rau Band and The Walden Dahl Band
For more information call: 951.678.0831
Contact Info:
Call: 866 OLD TOWN
Email: mnadolson@dslextreme.com
Web Site: http://www.temeculacalifornia.com/Calendar_of_Events_for_Old_Tow/calendar_of_events_for_old_tow.htm
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- Thank you Dave and Swingtown for playing my request and dedicating it to me here in Hawaii. I got to hear it over the phone! Mahalo! -- Marilyn in Hawaii, 20:19:15 09/09/07 Sun (cpe-66-91-120-206.hawaii.res.rr.com/66.91.120.206)
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SWINGTOWN DATES ADDED: -- Claudia, 13:54:51 09/11/07 Tue (pool-71-108-233-231.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.233.231)
This just in from Dave Eastly.
Hot off the presses, some Disney dates to add to the calendar;
Oct 20,
Nov 3
Dec 22
Jan 26
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- More Frontierland trivia -- Hillary Kelley, 23:59:49 08/16/07 Thu (waproxyb28.msn.com/65.54.98.107)
I found this video on youtube, showing part of Laughingstock's show inside the 'Shoe. I recognize Ken as the Mayor and believe that Cory is Clem (it's a little hard to tell because the video is grainy and he doesn't speak), but am not sure which Sally Mae had the great line about a fast pass. Any ideas??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaCDtqCNeLM
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SWINGTOWN REMINDER: -- Claudia, 09:53:02 09/06/07 Thu (pool-71-108-235-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.235.61)
Dave Eastly and Swingtown will be playing at the Carnation Plaza Gardens on Saturday, Sept.8th. Bring your dancing shoes and listen to some great music. See you there.
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- The Billys @ Vincenzo's This Saturday. -- Jan @ thebillys.net, 23:51:46 08/29/07 Wed (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
Coming this Saturday, September 1st at 7:30pm
The Billys
will be playing at
Vincenzo's Pizzeria in Newhall.
Admission is free....
The pizza is awesome....
The bluegrass is great....
And tips are appreciated.....
Come Join the guys this Saturday!
For directions, go to the Billys official website at www.thebillys.com
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- Billies -- DA, 06:41:48 09/03/07 Mon (pool-71-108-235-61.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.235.61)
- Nice pics DA (NT) -- TracyLynn, 10:34:10 09/04/07 Tue (pool-71-104-124-28.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.104.124.28)
- DA is a great photographer! (NT) -- Jan, 08:15:41 09/06/07 Thu (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
- ELVIS WILL ENTER THE BUILDING....... -- Just TCB, Jan, 15:06:44 08/20/07 Mon (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
Coming to the OC Marketplace on Sunday, August 26th
8th Annual Elvis Fest
starring our fav Elvis Impersonator, Kirk Wall
and sponsored by the Jailhouse Rockers of So. Cal.
Monies raised to help support the Elvis Presley Memorial Trauma Center and other charities.
From 9am to 4pm
Admission price includes the Marketplace admission.
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SWINGTOWN REMINDER: -- Claudia, 10:12:53 08/22/07 Wed (pool-71-108-235-153.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.235.153)
This Friday Night, August 24th. Dave Eastly and his band Swingtown, will be playing at the Carnation Plaza Garden Pavilion. Join us for some great music and don't forget your dancing shoes. DA and I will be there.
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- Frontierland Trivia -- Jan, 08:14:57 08/16/07 Thu (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
If any of you have been around Disneyland since the 70's and 80's, you might remember The Pinewood Pickers in Bear Country [now Critter Country]. The original Pinewood Pickers consisted of John and Peggy Corzine, Bill Knoft and Dennis Fetchet.
Well, here's your chance to see them again in a rare appearance. John and Peggy will be joining Dennis Fetchet and Rodger Phillips of the Grateful Dudes this Saturday night at Vincenzo's in Newhall.
It is hoped that Bill Knoft will drop by after his other gig.
Come on by for an evening of enjoyable bluegrass music and great pizza this Saturday night from 7:30 to 10:30.
Vincenzo's is located just off Interstate 5 in Newhall at the Lyons Street exit
go right and turn into the first shopping center you see.
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The Billys @ the OC Marketplace -- Jan@www.thebillys.net, 09:43:12 08/06/07 Mon (cip-64-55.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.55)
Returning on Saturday, August 11th
THE BILLYS
at the OC Marketplace Westside Grill
from 10:30 am to 1:30 pm
Admission is $2.00 a person and that includes the swap meet and the show.
Venue is located at the OC Fairgrounds at Fair Drive and the Costa Mesa Freeway [55]
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Also, coming to the OC Marketplace on Sunday, August 25th
8th Annual Elvis Fest
starring our fav Elvis Impersonator, Kirk Wall
and sponsored by the Jailhouse Rockers of So. Cal.
Monies raised to help support the Elvis Presley Memorial Trauma Center and other charities.
From 9am to 4pm
Admission price includes the Marketplace admission.
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- Billy in training Scott Gates and Chelsea Williams Live in concert July 30 at the Coffee Gallery in Altadena -- Andy Gates, 13:32:45 07/13/07 Fri (cache-dtc-af06.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.70)
MONDAY July 30 7:00 PM. $15 Scott Gates & Chelsea Williams were brought together for the first time, by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's own John McEuen, just last March right here at the BACKSTAGE in Altadena. If you weren't there then, don't miss it now! The natural talents of these two have the dynamics that will light the candles this night for Scott's 15th Birthday making this year three in a row celebrating at the Coffee Gallery Backstage. Scott is well known to the Coffee Gallery faithful, having played here with top name artists as a special guest as well as bringing his two bands, The Pacific Ocean Bluegrass Band and Scott Gates and the Vintage to the venue.---- Chelsea currently makes her living by playing city sidewalks for tips and selling a home-made demo, having sold thousands of CDs in recent months, one-by-one, simply on her own on the street. Her magnetic presence draws them in and her songs set the hook. This you gotta see! Chelsea Williams, fast emerging singer/songwriter from the serene and lovely foothills of the San Gabriel Mountains, joins forces with Scott Gates, fast emerging national mandolin star, to bring an evening of entertainment no one should miss! Come partake in the fun -- cake will be served!!
Address is:
2029 No. Lake Ave.
Altadena, CA 91001
Reservations/Information: 626-398-7917
PLEASE PARK ON LAKE AVE. ONLY
This is Scott's 15th Birthday! Please come celebrate!
Go to http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y_RTWS58yLM
to see them playing together
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We'll be there !!!! (NT) -- Claudia, 08:11:32 07/17/07 Tue (pool-71-108-228-140.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.108.228.140)