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Date Posted: 18:30:09 10/19/06 Thu
Author: TracyLynn aka Snappy aka Shutterbug (:))
Author Host/IP: ACC34855.ipt.aol.com / 172.195.72.85
Subject: Billy Paparazzi...that's what I've become with my new camera...

I got a new Fuji FinePix S 5200. It looks nice and feels nice in my hand and has 10x zoom (for those up the nostril close ups)but I've noticed the pictures appear grainy no matter what setting I use. (big time run on sentence..I'm bad about that...please excuse me)This camera brags about the crisp clear quality but all I see is grit! Anyone else have one of these or know what I might be doing wrong? I wonder if I just got a dud.

Also while we're at it...what kind of camera do you have?

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[> I use a Kodak Easyshare 5 Mp camera -- Hillary Kelley, 19:46:38 10/19/06 Thu (cache-ntc-ad09.proxy.aol.com/207.200.116.203)

I don't know about the Fuji cameras, but sometimes when I use the digital zoom function on my camera, the picture becomes grainier.

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[> I have two Olympus camera and my new one is a Kodak Easy Share..... -- Jan, 20:35:08 10/19/06 Thu (lgb-static-216.70.131.197.mpowercom.net/216.70.131.197)

.....Are the grainy pictures only indoors or are you taking other photos and they seem grainy?

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[> [> Indoors, Outdoors, Flash, No Flash...all grainy... :(... -- TracyLynn, 23:15:56 10/19/06 Thu (ACC174FB.ipt.aol.com/172.193.116.251)

I specifically wanted a bigger zoom this time around...and I'm wondering if that is the issue...as Hillary mentioned. The weird thing is...the pics are HUGE and when I size them down they look 'okay'. You barely notice the grainyness (sp?)

Maybe I'm expecting too much from this camera. Or maybe I am not used to the settings. Do you think the megapixels (it's a 5)make a big difference? My old camera was a 5mp too and it took pretty good shots...it only had 3x the zoom.

Thanks for listening to me whine!!

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[> [> [> Before you give up, read the manual, maybe there's a setting it needs to be on that's not set? -- Jan, 23:21:50 10/19/06 Thu (cip-64-155.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.155)


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[> [> [> [> There's a manual??!! -- TracyLynn, 23:28:23 10/19/06 Thu (ACC174FB.ipt.aol.com/172.193.116.251)

heheh...Just kidding...I looked through it (first thing...before I started whinning)...but it's so vague. I'll check the Fuji website. I'm wondering if it's not just the camera...I'm hoping not...but if it is I want to trade it in for something else before it's too late.

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[> [> I should have qualified my statement. I have a Kodak Z650 Easy Share 6.1 MP with 10x as well. ....... -- Jan, 11:19:38 10/20/06 Fri (cip-64-155.bbs.surfcity.net/66.116.64.155)

...sometimes if I have the AF setting on continous, it takes grainy shots indoors or out. I really HATE the pop off lens cap which NEVER stays on to protect the lens.

As I'm sure you've now figured out, taking photos inside the Golden Horseshoe during a show is quite a task, as I'm sure Scarlett [Lisa], Dennis Lindsey or Roger Bayer can tell you. It's those darn amber gels in the spot lights. GRRRR! Good luck and as Dennis pointed out, only buy a camera from the manufacturer [and with a really good warranty].

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[> I have a S9000 it has the same noise problem. Use a slower 'film' will help 80 or 100 ASA -- DA, 08:57:11 10/20/06 Fri (pool-71-105-30-204.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.105.30.204)

Also set it for 3 to 4 M.P. that will help also.
Do get rid of it if you can get your money back.
Check out the new Olympus SP-500 UZ (Or 510 UZ) features 6-megapixels of resolution with a powerful 10x optical, stabilized zoom lens and a large, easy-to-view 2.5-inch color LCD with both automatic and manual settings, all built into a very compact and light-weight body. The large handgrip makes it easy to hold and operate with just one hand.
Only buy a camera from a camera manufacturer. Nikon-Olympus-Cannon- etc. I'm sorry I bought mine.

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[> I searched around on the internet and found some reviews... -- TracyLynn, 13:23:08 10/20/06 Fri (ACA967A5.ipt.aol.com/172.169.103.165)

here is a curious review:

When i received mine i found that every shot i took was BLURED! all the images were grainy. i first remmebered this site and how id read that this was a common problem, and it is. I quickly called fuji and told them the issue, they told me that its a fault with some of the CCD chips and that it needs to be replaced, which of couse is free. SO for anyone whos reading this thinking its a common issue with all cameras in this line, its not. its a defect thats afflicted a few cameras, so if you have the issue, just call the retialer and they will replace it free of charge.

and and very angry one:

Very bad pictures ( - 2/27/06)
jpeg compression to high, very bad pictures, no details in picture, no answer/help from Fuji-support. I will never bye another Fuji product!

out of about 25 reviews those were the only bad ones...ALL the rest just raved about this camera...and some were from photographers of 20+ years.

I was a smart girl and bought a three year service plan with this camera...my last two camera's died on me at the two year mark...guess I'm pretty hard on them. I'm gonna 'fiddle' with it a little more to see if I can't get it to work better...and definitley gonna call that fuji number to see about that CCD issue.

lol...I just found another bad review:

Grainy, grainy, and grainy !
by kenorama0484 ,Jun 01 '06
Pros: Ergonomic, long battery life, great movies, a lot of manual setting options. Feels durable. Elegant.
Cons: Grainy. Pictures have a bluish tone. A lot of Photoshop work required.

I bought this camera because of its 10X zoom and tons of manual options. I also have a Fuji F-401 (2MP) and I am very happy with it. It's a great starters camera but no manual options. A real point-and-shoot. So, a 5MP CCD, long zoom and the name Fuji, I thought "What could go wrong?" I was wrong. 10X zoom is useless unless you use a tripod -who caries a tripod in their pocket? You get very grainy pictures with almost every setting unless you're in a perfect lighting condition with a tripod. My old 2MP camera takes sharper pictures compared to this 5MP camera. Basically, you will have a lot of very big but grainy pictures if you buy this camera. Also, what's with the 16MB xD card that comes with the camera. That's almost insulting. At least, they can give you a 64MB card or don't give a card at all. Another thing I noticed, it's very hard to find any accessories (other lenses, adapters, etc.) for this camera. In my opinion, the grain problem is so bad, this camera should be recalled by Fuji.

So far I 100% agree with all the bad reviews.

And Jan I know what you mean about the lighting issue and the effect it has on picture taking inside the horseshoe...ALL my photos from there have a major orangish/yellow hue to them.

*sigh* I was sooo excited to buy this camera...I absolutely love it's style...too bad I'm not impressed with it's performance.

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[> [> Forgot to say...if you have Adobe Photoshop... -- Scarlett, 14:10:22 10/20/06 Fri (71-134-37-29.ded.pacbell.net/71.134.37.29)

...that program can help take care of most of the red hue of the indoor pictures, but it won't help the grainy problem. Seriously, if you just put your blue filter on, shooting pictures inside will be fine. Once I figured that out (on a tip from DA) I didn't have any more problesm with orange pictures. Just go to your WB or White Balance setting and there should be several choices...a sunny day, cloudy day, indoor setting and probably a couple of other settings. Next time you are in the 'Shoe, turn on the camera and look at the stage with each of these settings to find the one that will balance out the red/orange of the lights. Just remember to re-do your WB when you leave the 'Shoe or all of your outdoor pictures will come out with a blue hue. :)

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[> I have an Olympus with 10x zoom...great camera...grainy pictures? -- Scarlet, 14:03:36 10/20/06 Fri (71-134-37-29.ded.pacbell.net/71.134.37.29)

That sounds like a lighting problem. When you "shoot" the Billys inside the Golden Horseshoe, you will have to put your blue filter on to filter out all the red lighting effects. That might make your pictures grainy and on the red side. You might want to check your aperture setting, too. If it's not letting in enough light, pictures can get grainy. I haven't read all the responses to your email, but if you don't have a manual, I'm fairly positive you can look it up online, probably from the manufacturer. Hope this helps!!

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[> Thanks to everyone for all the helpful advice! Still working on some settings...I want to like THIS camera! -- TracyLynn, 10:49:10 10/21/06 Sat (ACBFA1C2.ipt.aol.com/172.191.161.194)


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[> I let Dennis do all the work... he's such a great photographer and over the years I have hundreds and hundreds of pics from his site for me to look at! (I'd never reproduce them, of course!) -- Tats, 21:28:49 10/21/06 Sat (c-69-254-5-155.hsd1.ga.comcast.net/69.254.5.155)


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[> A review I missed -- DA, 20:18:34 10/24/06 Tue (pool-71-109-0-47.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.109.0.47)

The S9000's sensitivity has been improved to a more versatile ISO 80 to ISO 1600 range. All users will enjoy the smooth essentially noise-free images shot at ISO 80, while sports shooters will appreciate the ability to shoot full-resolution images at ISO 800 and 1600. Image noise is usually present in consumer digicams at high sensitivities, and the S9000 is no exception. Noise can be detected in shadows at ISO 200, in highlight areas at ISO 400, and is noticeable throughout the image at settings of ISO 800 and 1600. There's also a noticeable loss of image detail at ISO 800 and 1600, the result of in-camera noise reduction. While image quality suffers at high ISO settings, sports shooters will be happy to have sensitivity settings that may make the difference between getting the shot and not. Sports shooters will also appreciate the ability to select shutter speeds as high as 1/4000 second in both shutter-priority and manual modes.

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