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Date Posted: 6/03/09 5:36:00pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: At least the JA make the trains run on time
In reply to: Tom 's message, "A change is as good as a rest!" on 6/03/09 8:24:52am

>>If the JA had changed, there'd be something new to
>>discuss.
>
>And therein lies the issue ....... first hand I see
>the changes that have happened and, whilst I think
>it's only the first few steps in the right direction,
>others still hanker back to the days of flares and
>tank tops!

I wonder what changes you feel you have seen, ecause in my experience, they always did some good, while still bullying and crushing others. I don't doubt that they affcet the lives of many more than are affected by some other organisations, but I suspect they hold something of a record for crushing spirits, making people feel guilty and unworthy,making people who leave them feel they are being judged, etc.

Your argument, Tom, sounds like the old defence of Mussolini that at least he made the trains run on time. I wonder how you can concede the level of bullying and at the same time imagine that is in any way mitigated by whatever good the JA do.

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