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Date Posted: 8/03/09 10:52:56pm
Author: Rina
Subject: Re: At least the JA make the trains run on time
In reply to: Tom 's message, "Re: At least the JA make the trains run on time" on 8/03/09 7:52:26pm

>>I wonder what changes you feel you have seen, ecause
>>in my experience, they always did some good, while
>>still bullying and crushing others. I don't doubt that
>>they affcet the lives of many more than are affected
>>by some other organisations, but I suspect they hold
>>something of a record for crushing spirits, making
>>people feel guilty and unworthy,making people who
>>leave them feel they are being judged, etc.
>
>I can only speak from my recent experiences which,
>compared with those of 10 or so years ago, would say
>that lessons have been learned.
>
>>Your argument, Tom, sounds like the old defence of
>>Mussolini that at least he made the trains run on
>>time. I wonder how you can concede the level of
>>bullying and at the same time imagine that is in any
>>way mitigated by whatever good the JA do.
>
>That's not what I am saying ....... I'm simply saying
>that although the painting has areas of black, there
>is also an abundance of colour :)

Try finding out if the core is black or white, that's what really matters, not "these beautiful colours"

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