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Date Posted: 11/08/10 9:56:09am
Author: the artist
Subject: Breach of forum rules
In reply to: Luke 's message, "Re: Andrew rigsdale r ridsdale" on 9/08/10 9:20:59pm

talking to yourself again LUKE/JOHN/CHAPLAIN??

Mike, please correct me if I am wrong but these people all mysteriously have the same IP address

>Hello chaplain,
>
>yes Andy did say he had stolen two vehicles, on two
>occasions, I'm not sure about him trashing one, I know
>the second time Andy went to the ja, they put him in
>charge of the vehicle pool, so it wasn't surprising,
>and Andy did say he'd had problems at the farm, I hope
>what you say is true, and he's doing well.
>
>Your obviously a prison chaplain, so the lads you
>speak of I assume are prisoners who have had previous
>contact with the ja.
>
>I think some of those lads are victims as well, bad
>upbringing, bad areas to live in, failing schools,
>they needed a chance, a shame the ja couldn't give
>them that chance.
>
>I think, given the ja record of sexual abuse, other
>abuse, they are not fit to run anything, let alone a
>half way house.
>
>The probation service do that kind of thing, and it
>would be a jolly good idea for there to be Christian
>half ways
>houses, there's a few dotted about, but not nearly
>enough, only
>trouble is, it makes my hair stand on end thinkng of
>the ja running one, good idea, given the right people,
>and the right leadership, but the
>ja would never pass the crb checks needed, and would
>create more offenders, they would go in with the usual
>arrogant manner, not helping people properly, yes a
>network of Christian half way houses is a good idea,
>but run by a long established church, with the ja
>nowhere near it.
>
>>Andrew has left us now, so I can't probe the
>>interesting matter of nicknames. He did speak of the
>>Jesus Army, but not much. He admitted to two thefts of
>>their vehicles, including the trashing of one, and
>>felt bad about it. Part of him hoped to be received
>>back there as a changed man, but another part of him
>>felt the Anglican route was more 'him'. As for
>>criminal vicars, it depends what the crime was, how
>>long ago, etc. TWOC might not bar you, but fraud and
>>theft would, to name but two.
>>
>>I meet all sorts of lads for whom the JA was simply a
>>step too far. They like it, it did them good, they
>>speak fairly well of it, but it was too structured and
>>had too many expectations for guys who had failed
>>almost everybody's expectations in life (parents,
>>school, employer, etc). Some of them wished the JA had
>>half way houses of some kind, which went at a slower
>>pace. Maybe that is something the JA could consider.

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