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Date Posted: 24/10/10 7:18:37pm
Author: Suzanne Several (Querying...)
Subject: Re: the unforgiveable sin of breaking covenant
In reply to: Do not want to give my name 's message, "Re: the unforgiveable sin of breaking covenant" on 13/07/10 5:11:42am

I'm considering leaving the JA. It began some months ago, but my feeling has become stronger that the ministry isn't working for me. I've also heard vehement ministry against breaking covenant, and about those who move between churches - or on "losing faith" (shown by leaving). But I think we can retain our faith and still go to another church - or return to a church where we were before. Some people leave who weren't already Christian before joining JA (they were converted from no faith, or others). Maybe for them it's more difficult - perhaps they struggle with any sort of belief in God after they've left. Some other people leave for a while, then return - a yo-yo effect. I've seen it. These ones are always welcomed back. It's well known that churches like this one have revolving doors!
In my own area there've been a few prominent people who have left recently - it's felt keenly. There seems to be much speaking against more members following suit, and elders or seniors seem a bit desperate over it. New people have joined, but they don't replace 'strong' ones who have left - new leadership material is anxiously sought after.

>I was a member for many years and left ten years or so
>ago. I know that it was true that we were taught that
>if we left we were covenant breakers. I know it
>because I believed it. It was about ten years ago that
>things began to change. When I left that was NOT said.
>However it was for many years before that and when I
>tried to leave after about a year I went through hell,
>fearing I had done something terrible. There was the
>idea of curse involved, certainly. I did not have
>trouble leaving ten years ago. There were good things
>about the JA and there still are, but keeping people
>in a church by control was not one of the things they
>are proud of as far as I know from those very lovely
>Christians I know who are still involved. However, I
>was rather disconcerted a year or so ago to have a
>friend describle me as 'an exception' as I had done so
>well after leaving.
>I much prefer the words of a local pastor round my way
>who says 'if they leave you never had them' and the
>understanding most pastors would have that some people
>will be sent by God to the church for a season, but
>then move on.

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