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Date Posted: 8/02/18 1:23:44am
Author: Barbara (Richards)
In reply to: Rina Jongsma 's message, "JESUS ARMY MAKES ZOMBIES!!!!" on 30/10/12 2:50:15pm

>I know for 100% sure the Jesus Army not makes
>disciples, but forces people to become a disciple.
>They could do this by being extremely loving and
>gentle in the beginning (the snakes...), but as soon
>as you dare to start to express your own opinion they
>change, then you have to bend or brake. You have to
>conform totally to their opinions, otherwise you are
>said to be a devil or things in this direction.
>So beware everyone: don't be taken in by them.
>They are extremely dangerous people, I can tell from
>my own experience. I keep on warning people for them,
>because I feel for the people who, by their na�vity,
>are taken in by them, just like I was.
>Just keep on reading your Bible very diligently, and
>check with your Bible if the things they teach are
>sound. You will soon come to a nasty conclusion.
>But you have to really keep on study your bible and be
>faithful to what you read and make this your priority
>and not what the Jesus Army teaches you!!!
>Be watchful! They make you so busy that you hardly
>have time to read your bible anymore. Be extremely
>From a heart that really worries for you!, Rina

I was attracted to the Jesus People (as they were when I first met them) by Jesus, it was Jesus I was looking for. But their horrible bullying drove me away. The leaders in the Jesus People church were obsessed with controlling people's every move and thought. It's a shame as their idea of living in community I found very attractive. I did meet some lovely people but bullying was encouraged and I ended up crying a lot and then got mocked. They told me I had to toughen up, and I not only couldn't but I didn't want to. I didn't want to turn into a bully, I wanted to be like Jesus, and Jesus wasn't a bully. The child abuse is terrible. I feel sorry for Mick, I did like him, I think he was so much wanting to do the right thing. But they should have trusted the Holy Spirit, some of the things in the Jesus People (I hate the Army part) were beautiful, or would have been. They shouldn't have banned music, it was ridiculous having a blanket ban on all recordings, they could have had a music room, music can be such a blessing to wounded souls, I like Yes, I listen to classical music and Yes and Jon Anderson and other very talented musicians, and it's very wrong to just say all recorded music is satanic, it's wrong and it's lazy, and blasphemous if the music has been inspired by love and searching for God, as clearly some of Jon Anderson's music has, even if he's not right about some things. But I do agree with the television ban, I think television is a brainwashing machine. They could have just banned satanic music like the Cannibal Corpses for example, and allowed some lovely music even if it was just classical Sibelius, Mozart, Handel ect.

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