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Date Posted: 25/06/10 7:41:28pm
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: yawn
In reply to: Barbara 's message, "Yes" on 25/06/10 7:25:34pm

>There are plenty more of us, hopefully Mike Graham
>will not stop us getting through thye lines tonight on
>TalkSport.
>
>We are all proud to be standing up for law and order
>and against institutional child abuse, torture,
>corruption and fraud.

Don't miss the word "institutional". Barbara is not saying there are people who are flying under the radar. She is saying that the institution itself - the courts, police, social services, teachers etc actively support child abuse. She is sayingthe radar is set to let these people in.

Look at the definition of "institutional racism" on wikipedia, for instance "Institutional racism is distinguished from the racial bigotry, by the existence of institutional systemic policies and practices meant to place non-white racial and ethnic groups at a disadvantage in relation to the institution�s white members." The term is very new and I am not sure the Institutional child abuse has been coined yet or used by anyone apart from Babs, but she is clearly using it in the same sense.

Institutional racism exists in institutions which have been traditionally or historically racist and have yet to liberalise. The implication of Babs's terminology must be that in a similar way the police and social services have a tradition of regarding child abuse as acceptable and have yet to be brought into the 21st century.

But child abuse has NEVER been socially acceptable. It has always be abhorred by society. What HAS changed is that in the past it was talked about less and hushed up more....bnecause, as I say, it has always been shameful.

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Replies:

That is not true -- Barbara, 28/06/10 12:06:32pm
- Re: That is not true -- Luke, 28/06/10 1:32:46pm
  - peculiar and unjustified claims -- Peter Eveleigh, 28/06/10 11:39:51pm
    - Corporal punishment and sado massochism -- Barbara, 29/06/10 9:30:35am
      - Re: Corporal punishment and sado massochism -- Luke, 29/06/10 11:49:23am
        Re: Corporal punishment and sado massochism -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 4:18:26pm
      - Re: Corporal punishment and sado massochism -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 4:20:51pm
        The circle of abuse -- Barbara, 29/06/10 4:36:13pm
        What does more good, stopping abuse or talking about stopping it on a forum. -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 7:14:25pm
        Breaking the taboo -- Barbara, 29/06/10 7:52:10pm
        child protection -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 8:02:46pm
        click "Create a new forum" -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 8:40:08pm
        You are not going to drive me off this forum -- Barbara, 29/06/10 8:49:26pm
        better to be irrelavant than ignored -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 8:57:23pm
        So wide off the mark -- Barbara, 29/06/10 9:13:00pm
        The JA re-abused abused people -- Barbara, 29/06/10 8:44:47pm
        we had a bond -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 8:51:32pm
        Ask yourself that question -- Barbara, 29/06/10 8:54:49pm
        no, re-read the emails -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 9:01:30pm
        Post them then! -- Barbara, 29/06/10 9:07:45pm
        Re: Post them then! -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 9:24:24pm
        Nice try -- Barbara, 29/06/10 9:40:45pm
        Re: Nice try -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 9:50:11pm
        Another nice try -- Barbara, 29/06/10 10:08:25pm
        Peter's training -- Barbara, 29/06/10 10:13:02pm
        I am sorry Peter -- Barbara, 29/06/10 10:30:28pm
        Fruit and nut -- Peter Eveleigh, 29/06/10 10:55:45pm

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>>There are plenty more of us, hopefully Mike Graham >>will not stop us getting through thye lines tonight on >>TalkSport. >> >>We are all proud to be standing up for law and order >>and against institutional child abuse, torture, >>corruption and fraud. > > > >Don't miss the word "institutional". Barbara is not >saying there are people who are flying under the >radar. She is saying that the institution itself - the >courts, police, social services, teachers etc actively >support child abuse. She is sayingthe radar is set to >let these people in. > >Look at the definition of "institutional racism" on >wikipedia, for instance "Institutional racism is >distinguished from the racial bigotry, by the >existence of institutional systemic policies and >practices meant to place non-white racial and ethnic >groups at a disadvantage in relation to the >institution�s white members." The term is very new and >I am not sure the Institutional child abuse has been >coined yet or used by anyone apart from Babs, but she >is clearly using it in the same sense. > >Institutional racism exists in institutions which have >been traditionally or historically racist and have yet >to liberalise. The implication of Babs's terminology >must be that in a similar way the police and social >services have a tradition of regarding child abuse as >acceptable and have yet to be brought into the 21st >century. > >But child abuse has NEVER been socially acceptable. It >has always be abhorred by society. What HAS changed is >that in the past it was talked about less and hushed >up more....bnecause, as I say, it has always been >shameful.
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