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Date Posted: 29/06/10 12:02:28am
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: We all know the JA blackens the name of any leavers or critics. Why do we join the JA in this?
In reply to: Luke 's message, "Re: Unemployment benefit" on 25/06/10 10:54:08am

Luke does not have to prove his involvement to me. I have heard enough from him through personal contact which confirms it. It is a shame that people here who know that it is the JA practice to rubbish ex members are joining the JA in trying to undermine Luke just because his experience of the JA was so much more awful than ours.

I know I am repeating myself, but it is healthy that most of us have no experience of abusive behaviour and laudable that we find it hard to believe, even of JA members of whom we are critical ourselves, that anyone we knew there could have been involved in anything so nasty.

I personally have a natural tendency to disbelieve nasty accusations because, as a teacher, I have frequently seen allegations ruin teachers who the evidence has later shown were innocent all along....and I hate the casual way that people denegrate probably innocent JAs on here out of personal malice, which is why I sympathise with Luke not wanting to name his abuser. An accusation is a serious business.

But I also know the harm done when someone, especially a child, is not believed, even by her own mother, who then protects her abusers. It is altogether a nasty, invidious business and nobody has a right to call a stranger a liar when they have risked approbrium by speakign out about a horrible abuse.

At this point I know that Barbara will say, in effect, "but that isn't how you were with me when I said I had been abused in the JA", to which I would respond that she was deliberately vague about the "abuse" she suffered; allowing people to infer that the "sexual abuse" she had suffered could have happened in the JA, when actually, what she later claimed was that the abuse was "spiritual".

Barbara's accusations against the JA all have to do with not having been sufficiently well treated in the JA as a victim of abuse suffered pre-JA. She believes that the JA actually hate victims of child abuse, which I find a rather perverse bit of reasoning.....a cliam which is made less credible by her claims that I must hate them too, which she bases on the fact that I will not agree with her analysis of the "abuse" she suffered in the JA.

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