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> > >in what way were you under pressure to join? did you >not want to join? > > > >>Thank you. >> >>Ten years ago i was under pressure to join, and give >>the ja all my money, I hadn't at that point got any, >>but I knew I had money coming. >> >>My recent contact with the ja I think a lot of the >>claims of poverty and lack of food, and needing a cash >>injection was just a ruse to get people to give cash, >>namely me. >> >>They really did tell me their food had run out, >>including milk and bread, my answer, I simply went to >>my vehicle and ate from food I brought with me, and >>left next day after violence and attempted >>intimidation. >> >>I didn't really think the ja had run out of food, but >>they claimed they were short of food and cash, more >>madness >> >>>I'm sorry but this is a load of nonsense. No food in >>>the house at all? really? I think not. JA houses are >>>still loaded to the seams with food. The food order >>>may have been late - true and people may have been >>>worried about it (I remember forgetting to pick our >>>food order up for 3 days lol!) Usually when they talk >>>about being short of cash its' about trying to get >non >>>residents to give etc... there is no real cash >>>shortage - trust me >>> >>>>Interesting, the way the ja has changed over the >>years >>>>then. >>>> >>>>Recently the food delivery was late, from central >>>>stores, there was real panic, as there was no food >in >>>>the house at all, and there was worry that the food >>>>would >>>>not come, and a lot of heavy reference to being >short >>>>of cash. >>>> >>>>How much of it was an act I don't know, but >certainly >>>>made me think, houses very shabby now, and cold in >>>>winter. >>>> >>>>I wonder if with Noel >>>>gone, the likes of mick punish houses for >>>>not doing well enough by withdrawing food and heat? >>>>With Stanton gone, anything is possible. >>>> >>>>I have said it before, a few episodes like that, a >>few >>>>leadership challenges, and the ja will implode. >>>> >>>>Final comment, don't trust the cult information >>>>centre, they leak info back to the ja, and I have >>>>proof, to >>>>come. >>>> >>>>>I really have to disagree. I never experienced >>>>>grinding poverty in community. I think I had it >>easy. >>>>>For three years someone else (sisters) did all the >>>>>laundry, all the cooking, etc and despite being >>>>>unemployed a lot of the time, all my immediate >needs >>>>>were met and I had no debt. >>>>> >>>>>Yes, maybe some people would have been better off >>>>>without community, but an awful lot of people, >>>>>possibly a majority (especially these days when >they >>>>>target less well off, working class people) would >>>>>probably be worse off (not emotionally and >>>>>spiritually, but certainly economically). >>>>> >>>>>Sure, we didn't have TV etc and clothes were simple >>>>>and furniture second hand, but even now I am not >>sure >>>>>that matters much. >>>>> >>>>>I also have to say that when I was there, the food >>>>>could be monotonous, sure, but it was nutritious >and >>>>>there was lots of it.
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