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Date Posted: 26/05/10 8:55:39pm
Author: Anon
Subject: Re: it is something I admire about the JA
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "Re: it is something I admire about the JA" on 26/05/10 8:27:31pm

I am interested in Dave Hawker's role in everything because he disappeared into thin air.

>>I'm not sure about admiring him as he has hidden quite
>>a lot through the years but yes it's not worth being
>>drawn into arguments that can never end.
>I see what you mean. Maybe what I admire is his
>strategy rather than his morality.
>Lizzie Donovan did a stint before him and I thought
>having a woman was a cracking bit of PR for a group
>being criticised for being down on women, but she
>didn't survive long. I am not sure Noel approved.
>Before her was Dave Hawker, who I knew for some time
>after he left. He had been the front line defence when
>I published my leaflet (written jointly with John
>Everett) but he got himself into hot water with Noel
>because he thought the tactic of refusing to meet with
>us at the Evangelical Alliance to answer our concerns
>and to make it possible to avoid expulsion (through
>not appearing exclusive and unreasonable) was
>suicidal, as so it proved.
>The row between Dave and Noel that followed the EA
>expulsion (let nobody kid you that the fellowship
>chose to leave at that time - they were definitely
>forced out) led to Dave being demoted, sacked from his
>PR role, shunned and ultimately to him leaving.
>And when he did, he got in touch and invited me over
>for the weekend and we talked it all out.
>It was funny talking to someone who had spent so much
>effort in trashing me to the press to discredit me.
>But I think it is quite easy to forgive someone once
>they are out for the things they did when they were
>members, because we all know how very hard it was to
>stand up to the leadership.

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