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>One thing about JA and christianity is that the normal >principles of christendom can be adapted to suit >whatever the JA feel like at the time..... > >I was also very fond of Noel but think Mick is a limp >wristed, spineless wuss > >>I understand your point regarding john but if he >>professes Christianity I'm not sure where lying is >>considered ok from that standpoint. >> >>It's an interesting structure pretty much like a >>business really isn't it? >>Area managers a board and a dictator CEO. >> >>On a one to one basis I liked Noel, I understand some >>people didn't. But as a dictator he set up a place of >>unchallenged authority which is why all the CA's are >>weak. >> >>It will be interesting to see what happens now he's >>gone as there doesn't appear to be anyone as >>authoritarian as him there. >> >> >>>If I'm honest, I guess I don't have a problem with >>>John telling a few convenient lies (after all his job >>>as JA PR man might as well be called professional >>>liar! up to him) >>> >>>But I do have a problem with the fact that such a >weak >>>man has so much power over people. That goes for most >>>of the CA level leaders - they are weak and easy to >>>control >>> >>> >>>>yes I realise that but it's suprising to me how easy >>>>it is for these leaders in a Christian church to >>>>forget their own integrity and morals all to toe the >>>>party line for the good of the cause. >>>>It's also really worrying that these same leaders >>have >>>>so much control over individuals and treat them like >>>>children. Free will is mans most important facet and >>>>individuality is key to that not conforming to >>someone >>>>elses ideas of how one should be. >>>> >>>> >>>>>Steve would have been briefed by John Campbell and >>>>>told just what to say ...... Steve Callum told the >>>>>lies disturbingly easily but John has always been >>the >>>>>head yes man >>>>> >>>>>>I think that's probably why I have a strong >>distaste >>>>>>for him as well, the various yes men throughout >the >>>>>>structure of the JA have allowed things to go on >>and >>>>>>continue going on which were never right. >>>>>>Steve from London is another one I saw him lying >on >>>a >>>>>>tv program about children leaving the JA and he >>lied >>>>>>or witheld the truth from the police about a >>certain >>>>>>child abuse case all on orders from the top and in >>>>the >>>>>>name of protecting the brotherhood >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Because he is a pompous, stuck up, evil, >bullying, >>>>>yes >>>>>>>man >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I'm afraid that there is nothing to admire in >>>that >>>>>>>man >>>>>>>>>- I intensly hate him >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>why is that?
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