Date Posted: 9/06/08 4:48:05pm Author: Barbara Subject: Getting your act together In reply to:
Aardvark
's message, "Horrible spillage" on 9/06/08 10:30:18am
Mick Temp WAS the Elder at Cornerstone, but Cornerstone used to come to the Anchorage on alternative Sundays. The Anchorage used to go to Cornerstone likewise.
It concerns me that everyone has put this to the back of their minds. It was not just a fun little squabble between two strong sisters, it was two very gentle people being pitched against each other, and people DID laugh and gossip about this incident afterwards. I remember the way people used to gaggle together after this sort of shit, it was ugly, to think that we had all been attempting to give glory and honour to God one minuit, then, as the tea, Barleycup and cakes went round, it was a big gossipy freeforall. I mean, I'm not trying to be a killjoy here, but the sister I am talking about was wounded so badly that she ended up with an eating disorder and the last time I saw her she was about 3 or 4 stone overweight. That is what happens to a lot of sexual abuse victims, I know, because I ended up with eating disorder and OCD. You have to be very gentle with people who have gone through that sort of shit.
God trusted you guys with a special commission, there broken sisters, plus how many others? it was a privelage to be sent these people for healing you know, and you blew it. You know full well what I'm talking about here Dave, you ought to know, and if you don't know you ought to ask God to show you.
That's why I say, Mick and all the other Elders need to get theit act together. Not with me, but with God.
>>
>>>I feel a bit horrible doing this, it seems like
>>>backbiting, naming names I mean. I don't mean to be
>>>horrible. But these people ought to realise what
>>>they've done. I'm doing them a favour by spilling the
>>>beans, aren't I? It's better out in the open, isn't
>>it?
>>
>>Yes, I wonder what others here feel about naming
>names?
>>
>>I did wonder of I was out of order asking you to name
>>them, but the thing they did was really horrible. I
>>don't think you are doing THEM any favours by
>>revealing the truth, but I do think that there is a
>>sense in which the accusation becomes more concrete
>>when the real people are called to account.
>>
>>I am desperately disappointed to learn that Ian Jolley
>>(not a virtue name, incidentally) had a part in this.
>>I always loved him and thought he was quite a special
>>guy. I saw him again last year and it was a genuinely
>>happy reunion. I'd like it if he is reading this (or
>>if any other member reads it and tells him about it)
>>and he came and gave his account and, if possible,
>>apologised on here.
>>
>>Ray Gunn?
>>
>>(not a joke, that was one guy's name)
>
>Hi Barbara and Pete,
>Ray and Ruth Gunn are living in Belfast now so I don't
>often see them, similarly with Ian Jolley who's in
>Coventry/Stockton. Mick Temp didn't remember the water
>throwing incident (he's always been Cornerstone) and
>Martin, the deceased leader, was with the Stoke
>household. So I approached Mhairi to see if she
>remembered anything...
>
> She was most amused to be reminded of her soaking as
>she believes she had it coming. Eaddy, the sister who
>threw the water, had told her to stop making snyde
>comments and pouring cold water on everything or she'd
>pour cold water on her. The rest is already
>publicised. The two of them laughed about it together
>when I spoke to them last night and are bewildered at
>the notion that elders were or should have been
>involved.
>
> Credit to you Pete for thinking to question the
>alleged link between vulnerable women and water
>throwing. There is none. This was a dispute between
>two friends.
>
> As to how this has affected you Barbara, since you
>have taken offence on her behalf please get in touch
>with Mhairi (at Cornerstone) if you need to be
>reassured about the dynamics of the situation. She'd
>be pleased to hear from you.
>
>Bless you,
>Dave Ardent
