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Date Posted: 4/04/10 12:28:05am
Author: Peter Eveleigh
Subject: the JA
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "How would you like the story to end?" on 3/04/10 11:06:37am

>In an April fool joke on another forum, someone wrote.
>" The JA has been closed down and all there money
>siezed, houses have been sold and leaders put in
>prison, long boring meetings have been abolished and
>the Farm is being turned into a Knocking shop!!!!!"
>
>I didn't entirely agree, and often haven't agreed with
>other people's hope that the whole thing would be
>closed down. Having been there and known how dependent
>people are upon it and feeling that people have a
>right to make their own choices, my hope is for
>fundamental reform rather than abolition.
>
>However, the present leadership were part of what made
>the fellowship corrupt from the earliest days, so I
>would hope that there would be a revolution, in
>effect, from among the younger members, and I think I
>sense this starting to happen already. The
>de-centralisation of power, the disparate spread of
>localised churches which rarely meet centrally, and
>which mean that members of some households do not know
>or know of members of the rest of the church....and do
>not feel the influence of Central Zion control, etc
>etc; the relief expressed by some members on forums
>when Noel died, the expressed disappointment when Mick
>took the reins, etc, etc...all point to a change ahead.
>
>So, what I want to know is, what sort of JA could you
>live with. What is most desirable?

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Replies:

Re: the JA -- anon, 4/04/10 7:37:40am
- Re: the JA -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 1:07:14pm
  - Re: the JA -- Name Change, 4/04/10 1:23:58pm
    - Re: the JA -- anon, 4/04/10 4:02:51pm
      - personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 4:21:15pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 4:36:50pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 4:45:39pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 4:49:24pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 5:01:16pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 5:29:33pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Name Change, 4/04/10 4:56:53pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 5:08:41pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 5:20:16pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 5:30:52pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 5:44:20pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Name Change, 4/04/10 6:03:24pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 4/04/10 6:41:35pm
        fears of Labour taking children away -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 8:27:16pm
        Re: fears of Labour taking children away -- anon, 5/04/10 7:28:59am
        Did the JA make self-defense more of a priority than the defense of children? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 11:56:08am
        Tom, what do you think (don't let mine be the only voice)? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 3:06:27pm
        Re: Tom, what do you think (don't let mine be the only voice)? -- anon, 6/04/10 3:37:01pm
        what about the kids? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 3:57:05pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- Peter Eveleigh, 6/04/10 4:02:11pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- peaches/nelly, 6/04/10 6:19:46pm
        Re: what about the kids? -- anon, 6/04/10 6:35:49pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/04/10 6:16:45pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- Barbara, 13/04/10 10:42:43pm
        Re: Location of buttocks -- anon, 14/04/10 4:31:34pm
        Re: Location of buttocks -- Peter Eveleigh, 14/04/10 9:25:10pm
        Re: Location of buttocks -- nelly/peaches, 14/04/10 9:40:18pm
        Re: Location of buttocks -- anon, 14/04/10 9:41:07pm
        it is all opinion -- Peter Eveleigh, 15/04/10 12:52:24pm
        Re: it is all opinion -- anon, 15/04/10 2:29:53pm
        Re: it is all opinion -- Peter Eveleigh, 15/04/10 4:19:21pm
        Re: it is all opinion -- anon, 15/04/10 4:30:31pm
        being up above -- Peter Eveleigh, 15/04/10 7:33:38pm
        Re: being up above -- anon, 15/04/10 8:24:59pm
        Re: being up above -- Peter Eveleigh, 16/04/10 7:12:10pm
        Re: being up above -- anon, 16/04/10 9:20:09pm
        Re: being up above -- nellypeaches, 16/04/10 9:22:33pm
        Re: being up above -- Peter Eveleigh, 23/04/10 5:07:53pm
        Re: Location of buttocks -- barry m, 21/04/10 12:30:58am
        Re: Location of buttocks -- Barbara, 21/04/10 10:09:42am
        Re: personal responsibility -- barry m, 21/04/10 12:28:35am
        Re: personal responsibility -- Barbara, 21/04/10 9:59:20am
        Beatings with sticks -- Barbara, 21/04/10 10:02:53am
        Re: personal responsibility -- Peter Eveleigh, 23/04/10 5:18:19pm
        Choice between the JA and Jesus -- Barbara, 25/04/10 11:26:36pm
        Re: Choice between the JA and Jesus -- anon, 28/04/10 6:47:07am
        true JA -- Peter Eveleigh, 30/04/10 5:10:25pm
        Re: true JA -- anon, 30/04/10 5:20:53pm
        Re: personal responsibility -- anon, 28/04/10 2:51:17am
        MY NAME IS BARBARA, AS I HAVE ALREADY REPEATEDLY TOLD YOU -- Barbara, 28/04/10 4:48:16pm
        proportion -- Peter Eveleigh, 30/04/10 5:16:55pm
        Re: proportion -- anon, 30/04/10 5:28:56pm
        Re: proportion -- nellyp, 30/04/10 8:49:33pm
        The real problem -- Barbara, 30/04/10 11:15:36pm
        Re: The real problem -- Peter Eveleigh, 4/05/10 7:23:01pm
        Re: The real problem -- Barbara, 10/05/10 2:06:54pm
        Re: The real problem -- Peter Eveleigh, 10/05/10 7:28:16pm

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>>In an April fool joke on another forum, someone wrote. >>" The JA has been closed down and all there money >>siezed, houses have been sold and leaders put in >>prison, long boring meetings have been abolished and >>the Farm is being turned into a Knocking shop!!!!!" >> >>I didn't entirely agree, and often haven't agreed with >>other people's hope that the whole thing would be >>closed down. Having been there and known how dependent >>people are upon it and feeling that people have a >>right to make their own choices, my hope is for >>fundamental reform rather than abolition. >> >>However, the present leadership were part of what made >>the fellowship corrupt from the earliest days, so I >>would hope that there would be a revolution, in >>effect, from among the younger members, and I think I >>sense this starting to happen already. The >>de-centralisation of power, the disparate spread of >>localised churches which rarely meet centrally, and >>which mean that members of some households do not know >>or know of members of the rest of the church....and do >>not feel the influence of Central Zion control, etc >>etc; the relief expressed by some members on forums >>when Noel died, the expressed disappointment when Mick >>took the reins, etc, etc...all point to a change >ahead. >> >>So, what I want to know is, what sort of JA could you >>live with. What is most desirable? > > >Back to talking about the JA
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