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>I can't help but agree with you, Peter. You have done >a first class job of discrediting yourself over the >years. Maybe you should consider becoming a labour MP? > >>In the old days, when this site was first established, >>the JA had to discredit critics like me for fear that >>people with influence would take us seriously. >> >>These days they know that their critics will generally >>disctredit themselves. >> >>In the old days the JA recruited the sorts of people >>they would need to build their community - people with >>education, intelligence, skills, etc. They were >>usually idealists with dreams and vision who were >>actually looking to establish communes, which is what >>I was doing before I found the JA; they didn't find me >>- I found them. >> >>Perhaps because the fellowship now has its >>infrastructure fully established, they feel they can >>reach to the sorts of people that Jesus would have >>wanted to help....the downtrodden, the lost....drug >>addicts, sexual deviants, criminals etc, and if we >>suspend criticism for a minute, maybe they are >>absolutely right to target these people. >> >>The downside of this strategy is that the sorts of >>people who are easily recruited are also likely to be >>troublesome members, will contribute little in terms >>of skill and be a drain on resources....and ultimately >>will be more inclined to leave. >> >>But a cynic might argue that they are also targeting >>the sorts of people who, if they leave the fellowship, >>will find it hard to be taken seriously because they >>will come across as misfits, unstable etc. >> >>There was a time when this forum was a place where you >>could have an intelligent discussion with people who >>had really immersed themselves in the values of >>community and who, if they had been listened to when >>they had concerns about an issue, might have continued >>to be productive members of the church. >> >>We used to have intelligent, less polarised talks >>about what went on in fellowship, where now the forum >>just attracts people who make stuff up about the >>fellowship. I don't recognise the place that people >>here describe. It is not evil, It does not promote >>pedophilia, etc... >> >>There are too many very serious issues that are not >>being addressed because people with no sense of >>proportion and with eccentricities which are rooted in >>their pre-JA pasts feel a need fabricate or exaggerate >>the truth about the fellowship. >> >>This site has lost its direction and purpose. Nobody >>from the JA wants to silence anyone here because there >>is nothing here which represents any threat to them at >>all. People waste their freedoms to speak talking >>about nothing.
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