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Date Posted: 14/03/10 9:04:56am
Author: Outrage
Subject: Re: what a load of old cock
In reply to: Untrue 's message, "Re: what a load of old cock" on 14/03/10 8:53:24am

how can JA living be compared with secular society! Parents are told what to do with their children by people who live in the same house as them where is the comparison?
I find some of the defenses ridiculous if you are a Christian then sweeping the rubbish under the carpet will trip loads of people up,
the JA makes stumbling blocks for lots of people by covering and hiding illegal actions by members even by lying to the police they do this by using bits of scripture totally out of context to justify their own ends! Slave traders used to do this along with any other crazy religious cause.
There are loads of really good people in the JA whose loyalty means that they have condoned so much that they no longer see what is blatantly in front of them.
I am not pete eveleigh or any of the other regulars on this site, I am someone who has had a connection for over 20 years and have experienced the damage first hand and watched it wreck other loyal peoples lives for a long time.

I read defences on here a lot but the truth is Noel had a lot of issues that were never checked because no-one could ever challenge him I do think he has to carry some of the blame whatever his reasons were but also all those who stood by whilst injustices were perpertrated by him or those around him are just as much to blame!


>The guy in London was completely covered up with the
>main guy changing his story to the police on orders
>from nether heyford.
>When people from the JA start admitting that lies have
>consistently been told both to police and media they
>will be getting somewhere.
>I watched a tv discussion where londons ca told the
>studio and tv audience that all children who grew up
>in the JA were treated equally! I know from personal
>experience that this is a bare faced lie!
>
>>
>>The person in london was in the jesus army at the time
>>because I remember the court case and him going to
>>prison. i don't think the leaders covered it up
>>particularly but they had no time for the girls story
>>and were convinced of his innocence.
>>
>>
>>>>>>There is a leader in the JA who I know of who had
>>>>>>sexual relationships with a boy (now a man) and
>>>>>>because the guy wouldn't testify he got away with
>>>it.
>>>>>>Another one in London went to prison for messing
>>>with
>>>>>>a teenage girl and the leaders covered it up, I
>>>>>>rejoiced when I heard he was attacked in prison!
>>>>
>>>>In the interests of trying to be unbiased - I am
>>aware
>>>>of both these incidents and, in fairness, they can't
>>>>be excused.
>>>>
>>>>It would however be unfair, as it is in secular
>>>>society, to tar all with the same brush.
>>>
>>>
>>>Who was this leader who had relationship with the
>boy?
>>>
>>>The incident in london mr e. this was befor he became
>>>a member of the J.A.

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