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Date Posted: 30/03/09 10:37:20pm
Author: nelly
Subject: Re: Control freakery
In reply to: Peter Eveleigh 's message, "Re: Control freakery" on 27/03/09 8:26:33pm

What you've written is a really good description of how it happens and how we let ourselves get conned - in my opinion by people who do not know they are conning us in the first place coz they have been conned themselves.
Mind games.


>I know, but I think what controlled me was not Mick's
>prayer (and therefore, not God) but Micks's revelation
>to me that he was praying.
>
>Ultimately, it was Mick's power over my life, not his
>actual influence with God, which made me give in on
>this.
>
>I didn't THEN feel (any more than I would now) that
>Mick COULD make God do something bad. But Mick
>wouldn't have believed he was asking God for something
>bad. He would have convinced me that God Himself had
>layed this on his heart and that God wanted me to
>fail......since that was the only way to convince me
>that I was going a "worldly" way in my life.
>
>The fact is that when I joined, it was not for life,
>but just for the period that I was to be at college in
>Coventry. Mick had led me to believe that this would
>be ok....and I had believed him. Once I was a member,
>I realised that people are always allowed to think
>whatever they want....while all along, the elders have
>other plans.
>
>Even as I approached baptism, I still didn't grasp
>that the covenant was for LIFE. I knew this was the
>implication for others doing baptism teaching, but I
>still believed that Mick was being straight with me.
>Probably everyone there thought he was a special case,
>one way or the other. I wonder how many of us really
>believed that they really were there for life.
>
>Only when I was recieved into covenat, did the full
>implication crash in on me and I had a real crisis. I
>knew that I had committed to the fellowship,
>irrevocably. Mick said that everyone goes through such
>a crisis after baptism. He said that they call it the
>dark night of the soul. So, maybe everyone else felt
>as trapped as I did.
>
>I am not saying that I didn't understand the theory
>and I still accept personal responsibility for my
>actions, but I felt intellectually fooled and that I
>had been swept along by something I hadn't really
>understood emotionally or spiritually.
>
>My submission to Mick on the issue of going to college
>(a month or so after baptism) was nothing to do with
>superstition. It was all to do with psychology....and
>you are right when you call that control freakery.
>
>This is the man who Noel Stanton has chosen to succeed
>him.

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