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Date Posted: 9/12/09 10:47:54am
Author: Barbara
Subject: I have heard it
In reply to: Tom 's message, "Oooh drama :)" on 9/12/09 9:18:00am

"I think the primary irk you and others have about this "if you leave you'll go to hell comment" is that it has been alluded if you leave the JA you go to hell. Now, I have not heard that - for instance, I've not heard "..... if you leave the JA and go to Harpole Baptist Church you'll go to hell"."

Sorry to butt in, but I DID hear Noel say that.

He said, many times, that if we left the JA and went to one of those "Namby Pamby" churches, we would go to hell.

It terrified me into staying, even though the bullying and double standards in the JA was near on intolerable. Every day I was so miserable, and every day I was worried out of my mind that I might go to hell. It was like actually being in hell, I thought I already was in hell, except that it was cold. I can't describe how bleak everything felt at that time, it was like a really black tunnel.

The JA vision of heaven seemed horrible. To my mind, which, I admit was very broken, due to the child abuse and psychiatric abuse I had suffered, but their vision of heaven seemed to be one long cold everlasting Sunday Rant meeting. There was absolutly no joy or peace in it, you were forever watching your back for the JA Jesruit bullies. You were sneered at, watched constantly in case you put a foot wrong. You were "disciplined" into eating food which made you gag (cole slaw and orange tinned beans - I have a food phobia against these foods, it was like being forced to eat poo and vomit to me) and laughed at when you busrt into tears. I don't know why they couldn't be kind, like Jesus. But they said they didn't believe in the "love gospel". I thought the gospel was all about love. What they said really muddled me up a lot. The Bible said one thing and the JA said something else, and the JA said that they were always right.

I know I am not quite right in the head, before anyone has a go at me. There is Aspergers in our family, it's not my fault, and I have tried to fit in, and change, I've really tried my best. I used to cry all the time, and they used to think it was like a joke, and laugh at me. That was the worst thing. They said I was not allowed to show my emotion, and it was just really confusing. How can you rip yourself inside out, as if you were a sea cucumber?

Noel was ALWAYS going on about that we would go to hell if we left the JA and went to another church. I heard him say that many times, in the dreaded Sunday Morning meetings.

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