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Date Posted: 30/12/09 2:27:57pm
Author: John Smith
Subject: Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision
In reply to: Billy 's message, "Re: is that evolution or the beginning of the death of the vision" on 30/12/09 2:10:26pm

>>
>>>You sound very bitter and angry. And that is only
>>>going to harm yourself.
>>>The jesus army people that I surround myself with {I
>>>live outside community now} are some of the best
>>>friends you could find.
>>
>>Billy billy don't be a silly......
>>
>>Everyone who belongs to the JA in some form comes on
>>here and states the same thing "you are so bitter and
>>angry", this is a statement you are taught to say to
>>ex members when they confront you or when they
>>challenge you on your beliefs, i've heard the same
>>thing for the past 15yrs.
>>
>>In reality you sould be saying "John,I have no idea
>>what you went through and so I am not going to
>>patronise you with silly statement's such as your
>>bitter and twisted" because that was Noels favourite
>>saying a e all know he was full of Bull.
>>
>>Since I left many years ago yes I have been bitter and
>>angry and yes you're right it did only make me sad,
>>however what makes me sad is the arrogant disciples
>>who come on here and proclaim that I am wrong to stand
>>up to what there church preaches.
>>The leaders of the JA hate me because I ridicule them
>>and stand up to them, for 15 yrs I was nothing more
>>than a piece of shit and now I have a voice and they
>>have no place to hide, that Billyboy is the only
>>reason I say what I say, yes it's a bit raw but that's
>>the way the JA (your church) made me !!!!
>
>
>
>Sorry for being patronising. I know living in
>community can be a hard time and yes you can be
>treated like shit.
>I can remember faruke a guy who lived at NCF in the
>90's ,he could not get a job outside of community and
>noel stanton called him lazy .Even thoe faruke worked
>every single day with the pigs etc.
>Did you spend alot of years living in community?
>There are a few of us in the J.A who will not take
>that crap most of us do live outside of the church . I
>cant say to much on here but a few of us are going to
>be changing the jesus army over the next couple of
>years.

15yrs my parents joined in the 70's and I was dragged up there, interesting to hear how you plan on changing it? what is and has been your involvement????

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