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Date Posted: 29/10/06 5:49:03pm
Author: Gnasher
Subject: You weren't there, Claw, but you ignore those who were.
In reply to: The Hooded Claw 's message, "Re: Important not to play down the real bad stuff by discrediting it with lies" on 29/10/06 4:35:27pm

>What Jj described is not only abuse, but RITUAL ABUSE
>in a Christian setting. Had a group of Satanists been
>accused of such behaviour, even as an isolated
>incident, most right minded people would be baying for
>blood and expecting people to be locked up for a very
>long time. Try quoting the relevant posts to a social
>worker and see whether they agree with me. A parent
>who did something like that would have their children
>taken off them.
>
>You said that "most members" would disaprove. You are
>probably right but, as is so often the case, it isn't
>the "most" who we should be afraid of. The fact that
>it might be a rare phenomina doesn't excuse it or
>reduce the seriousness. As the women on here have
>readily proved with their shocking stories, abuse at
>one level or another against weaker people is part of
>the basic JA technique.

If I am right, as you concede I probably am, that what Jj described would be disapproved of by most of the members, you cannot describe this isolated incident as Ritual Abuse. Tom worked with Noel Stanton himself and was well enough regarded to be asked to speak at Men's Day, yet he says that he never heard of anything like this. From that, it is reasonable to assume this incident was exceptional.

You cannot damn any organisation on the basis of an exceptional event. You appear not to have been a member of the organisation, yet you seem willing to overlook everything said by everyone here who was. Nobody, not even the most virulent anti-JA critic here has suggested anything like the sorts of absue you happily imagine. So your speculations are nothing but malign prejudice.

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