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Date Posted: 06:15:55 05/01/04 Sat
Author: knonymous - 8 Apr 2004
Subject: Re: Samadhi
In reply to: Sundarar - 8 Apr 2004 's message, "Re: Samadhi" on 06:14:44 05/01/04 Sat


BE IN QUEST, NOT WITH QUESTIONS

Resurrection is arising in life from the death and destruction caused by thought and its notorious network. Then there is the tremendous living organism (the body), with a profound intelligence of its own. Then there is the thrilling throb, the beat and the pulse of life with a benediction, beauty and bliss beyond all your bogus beliefs and bigotry; beyond all your petty stories, surmises, suppositions, speculations and superstitions. This Resurrection is indeed the Lahiri Mahashay melody of Kriya Yoga. Please understand this and stop shopping around in the spiritual market. Exist like a flower — a living expression of the Immeasurable, Un-nameable, and Un-knowable.

Be in quest and not with useless questions. Do not sink into the mire of theological questions and answers generated by spiritual charlatans and religious mafias. To be in quest is to be in Intelligence and Awareness outside separative consciousness and to be with questions is to be in the mischiefs and mania of the mind. Quest is action, questioning is activity, i.e., reaction. All your experiences, religious or otherwise, are the basic cause of your dukkha (sorrow). Real looking destroys the continuity of thought and you are relieved for a while from all your experiences and "you-ness". That is the "after-state poise" of Lahiri Kriya and that is the freedom from the sham of the organised mental pollution of marketed yoga.

For God's sake, please come out of the paralysing consolations and gratifications that you derive from the mental concepts of God and other illusions.

Kriya Yoga is not so much a doing — it is more a way of Undoing! Kriya is gathering of energy to explode into "what is" and not to escape into "what should be".

Long live Lahiri-Lore

Shibendu Lahiri


The Buddhists say "if you see the Buddha on the side of the road, kill him!" The road is your path and the Buddha that you see would only be a thought about the Buddha, not the Buddha himself. Similarly your thought-forms as questions are your Buddhas, ready for the chopping block.

Discrimination is not a purely intellectual activity. Sometimes discrimination might need to be discriminated against. It seems like you are looking through different tradtions, schools, systems of thought to consolidate and validate your views, or maybe just to form them. Either that or you are investigating these other schools,etc., and just becoming confused by the mass of distinctions and terminologies. I know someone else who tries to mesh Kriya with Vajrayana with hatha yoga with Taoism with Buddhism with Gnosticism with channelled teachings, with anything else you can think of, trying to validate everything by everything else. This doesn't seem to help, it only leads to more confusion and a vast array of kooky beliefs.

I have seen personally (very rarely, admitably)how nice it is to leave a question unanswered--to leave it in it's own "innocence," to borrow a term. I have seen that one's own theories and conclusions don't have much worth except to fortify the ego and entrap one more and more within the mind and intellect--"intellect has conquered another question, there is nothing it can't defeat!' Well, there is one thing--itself. You can't overcome thinking with thinking. The conclusion is only one's own and has no objective worth outside of one's self, perhaps it is even definitely wrong. Once you figure these things out, there will be more questions, without a doubt. This is just the way the mind works.

I've read TOO MUCH stuff on yoga, meditation and world religions. But I had never heard of this "sasmita samadhi" that you speak of--and I am glad that I hadn't. Now I have heard of and I will let it go. In Kriya, as I have understood it, we go by Pantanjali's yoga sutras mixed with some vedantic understanding. The different schools have different maps. I believe that a lot of them have the same goal, but definitely different maps, i.e. techniques, methodologies and terms. Every good teacher stresses not to mix belief systems and teachings, but to follow your own with all your heart, mind and soul until the end.

If you're already getting samadhis and seeing kutastha then I would just resolve not to become complacent at one spot. M's post didn't say anything about any "last vestige of seperation, the primal 'I'." You made it more complicated that it was. All he said that was there would be expansion and contraction.

If you want to go all the way to nirvikalpa then you should know already that when it comes to all of this "knowledge"--you can't take it with you. So those who have already made it ask, why accumulate all this stuff anyway?

First one's free .

Jai guru,

k

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  • Re: Samadhi -- M - 9 Apr 2004, 06:17:05 05/01/04 Sat
  • Re: Samadhi -- Sundarar - 9 Apr 2004, 06:18:09 05/01/04 Sat
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