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Date Posted: 01:35:24 10/22/02 Tue
Author: ketch-26Sep02
Subject: Re: Evolution in the general and specific case
In reply to: Eponymous 's message, "Re: Evolution in the general and specific case" on 01:33:23 10/22/02 Tue

"Limited evidence"? You say that like it’s some sort of criticism. All science is based on limited evidence. Limited evidence is what makes science necessary!

Indeed, but the credibility of any theory is related to the amount of evidence which supports it. In the case of ape to human evolution the evidence is virtually non-existent.

In essence, your view is no different methodologically from that of the creationists; for that reason, and without further independent argument, that view enjoys only about the same level of credibility.


I have to disagree, evidence of evolution generally is far stronger than evidence of one small part of evolution, i.e. the ape/human subset of evolution. Furthermore Creationism implies many other things which the evidence points against e.g. a six day timescale.

As for you reference to "Independent cladistic analyses (evolutionary trees) based on (1) morphology and (2) molecular sequencing", not to mention the gravitational constant, this is just obfuscation. You do not provide any references or explanations, however any such evidence is irrelevant for at least two reasons.

1) Genetic similarities are only relevant if we are trying to determine a lineage based on the acceptance of standard natural reproduction methods. If instead we accept direct creation, all this shows is that the creator chose to use similar genetic structures in different aspects of his creation.

2) Let me repeat what I had quoted earlier in the thread about Sri Yukteswar/P.Yogananda's views:

"The human body was therefore not solely a result of evolution from beasts, but was produced by an act of special creation by God. The animal forms were too crude to express full divinity; the human being was uniquely given a tremendous mental capacity—the 'thousand-petaled lotus' of the brain—as well as acutely awakened occult centers in the spine."

Notice the word "soley", I repeat "The human body was therefore not solely a result of evolution from beasts." That would tend to imply that it was partly the result of evolution. The exact details are not given, but all the changes mentioned are astral changes.


I'm not really sure what your point is with all this. You have admitted that these claims cannot be disproved, yet you seem to be attempting to do just that. If you are trying to say that the evidence, while not absolutely conclusive, is still strong enough to be considered as disproving Yogananda's beliefs I have to disagree. If you can produce strong evidence I would be willing to consider it, but so far all you have produced is a very few incomplete fossils which when they are made up into skulls (by evolutionists) look a little as if they are somewhere between human and ape.

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