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Subject: Wrong!!! Very wrong!

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Curnoack
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Date Posted: 21:10:04 11/05/04 Fri
In reply to: Paddy (Scotland) 's message, "?" on 21:03:46 11/05/04 Fri

The Anglo-Saxons reached the Forth. They did NOT reach the Tay. Hence you find medieval English names in Fife, but not true Anglo-Saxon ones. You will however find plenty of Pictish and Gaelic names in Fife and Dundee from around a thousand years ago.

The main boundary of the Anglian kingdom was the Forth to the north, and the Esk in the west, although this boundary was unstable, and once reached into West Lothian.

Genes don't come into it.

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Paddy (Scotland)
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Date Posted: 17:06:26 11/06/04 Sat

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Actually he/she is right - the Anglo-Saxons didn't reach the Tay, they reached the Forth, a big difference. They didn't reach Glasgow either nt

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Random Jock
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Date Posted: 17:12:23 11/08/04 Mon

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Ed Harris (Venezia)
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Date Posted: 00:26:17 11/07/04 Sun

And don't the Highlanders traditionally refer to Lowlanders as 'Sassenachs', which, I can only presume from my limited knowledge of Gaelic, means 'Saxon'?

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Random Jock
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Date Posted: 17:01:39 11/08/04 Mon

The Highlanders tended to refer to the Lowlanders as "Gall". Incidentally this same element is found in the name of the Hebrides (na h-Innse Gall), DoneGAL, GALLoway (Gaidhlig speaking until the 19th century see Lorimer et al in "Scottish Gaelic Studies", "Carn" and other sources), and GALway. The Lowlands are known as "Galldachd" (Gall-dom), NOT "Sasainn".

Sasunnach does indeed mean Saxon, but what Wattie Scott got wrong, is that it was more used for proper English, than anglicised Lowlanders.

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Ed Harris (Back in Shropshire)
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Date Posted: 12:20:25 11/09/04 Tue

Thanks for the correction. I see I must brush up on my Gaelic. I have a copy of Mog an Cat somewhere which may help.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I suggest you find out what you are talking about...
Author: Paddy (Scotland) [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:06:26 11/06/04 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Actually he/she is right - the Anglo-Saxons didn't reach the Tay, they reached the Forth, a big difference. They didn't reach Glasgow either nt
Author: Random Jock [Edit]	Date Posted: 17:12:23 11/08/04 Mon [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Indeed...
Author: Ed Harris (Venezia) [Edit]	Date Posted: 00:26:17 11/07/04 Sun And don't the Highlanders traditionally refer to Lowlanders as 'Sassenachs', which, I can only presume from my limited knowledge of Gaelic, means 'Saxon'? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: I see...
Author: Ed Harris (Back in Shropshire) [Edit]	Date Posted: 12:20:25 11/09/04 Tue Thanks for the correction. I see I must brush up on my Gaelic. I have a copy of Mog an Cat somewhere which may help. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]