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Date Posted: 10:16:08 04/29/06 Sat
Author: Danny
Subject: Re: My thoughts and opinions re: 1iron clubs
In reply to: Pat Morris 's message, "Re: My thoughts and opinions re: 1iron clubs" on 08:14:50 04/29/06 Sat

Well from what very LITTLE I KNOW ABOUT GOLFSMITHING, I've heard there is about 2 1/2 yards of distance per degree of loft for distance. So with my little pee brain, I would say there should be some distance difference. The problem this thread is getting at, could a 3w deliver enough distance at 7 iron length to out hit you "1 Iron golf 3 iron"? But the problem with cutting a driver down that far and I believe is what David is saying and what I have found out by doing so, is, you just lose so much distance with your driver to make it almost in effective. It becomes very, very accurate, but very short. I'm not a long hitter by any account, but at my home course ther're are 2 holes that I have to hit my tee shot 210 or 220 to make the fairway, and with my 40" driver, I can't get there, with the 43" at least I can. I think that's why David's drivers are that length, like he said, there is just a point of deminishing returns on accuracy and distance. When I get my next order from David it will include a 38" 3w for a co-worker, which I will borrow immediately, I will let you know about the results.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: My thoughts and opinions re: 1iron clubs -- Patrick Morris, 12:40:27 04/29/06 Sat

Doesn't matter now, regripped the driver with a jumbo Lamkin crossline, fw's and some of the irons with mid-size lamkins as I had switched to standard size grips. Hit three buckets today. Went back to the Graves brothers system with the exception I ten finger instead of overlap. I had forgotten just how accurate and long single plane golfing can be. Just had to move the ball slightly forward, well a fair amount forward and do the Moe Norman thing with the driver. All irons centre stance and fw's just a little forward of centre. It all fell into place. Everything felt right, whereas with the conventional swing I always felt out of place even when I was hitting them lights out. So I will regrip all with midsize and the wedges with jumbo and go back to what I enjoyed before. A swing of ease. I had a game friday where I just couldn't hit the ball on about 90% of the shots, I went from High 70's low 80's to over a hundred, slashing at the ball, and then depression set in........ This winter was an experiment going back to a conventional swing, doesn't hold up for me. Pat

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: My thoughts and opinions re: 1iron clubs -- Jim Winiarski, 17:38:25 04/29/06 Sat

Well,I GUESS ITS JUST ME... how true. I went to the range today with the new 7 and 5 woods and hit them just as well or a little better than the CER's Therefore, its ME. Some days you feel like a nut and some days you don't and some days to hit better and some days you don't.

My problem was, I had a swing problem, my left arm was braking down on the take away. Charles, my coach saw this, and voila, it straightened me out. Charles quote, "Anything you change on the back swing you also have to change on the follow through; therefore keep the back swing simple as possible to allow the follow through to be easier on you." Isn't it why single axis is popular with us older wanna bees???
David mentioned this a few replies before.
Low and behold , I got a bottom line report, they want me back. with "How to improve your golf game if you're over 50", 3 tips:
1- Hold the club lightly, we are always tought this with the lower 3 fingers of our hands, but its a reminder to reduce the tension in our swing so that we will follow through stronger. 2-" Put your weight on your right foot, especially on full swings with woods and longer irons, Result: A head start on your swing and less weight shift." isn, this what David just said, and it seems to work, extra distance. 3 - "
Turn your chin to the right, for right handers as you start your back swing. If it throws you off, cock your head before you start". This one I would say is to cock your head and not turn, because the motion will result in a weight shift and bad results.

David, sorry about saying the CER's were better than the new woods, its just me!!!

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