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Date Posted: 06:36:47 11/20/08 Thu
Author: Chuck Henry
Subject: Re: Driver Length
In reply to: paul 's message, "Re: Driver Length" on 22:05:56 11/19/08 Wed

But doesn't that violate the principles of having 1 club length, 1 swing plane, and that a longer club doesn't add significant distance?

I'm not trying to be too much of a critic here, I just want to understand it.

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[> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- David Lake, 09:24:42 11/20/08 Thu

Chuck,

What you have to bear in mind is the difference in design function between irons, fairway woods, and drivers. The design function of an iron is to pinch the ball using a descending blow which requires a more upright swing plane than a fairway wood whose design function is to sweep the ball from the turf. Consequently, the swing plane with a fairway wood needs to be flatter than that with an iron to facilitate this function; and hence, a longer club length. A driver is designed to sweep a ball that is teed up 2" or so off the ground which requires a flatter swing plane than a fairway wood; and again, a longer club length than a fairway wood.

David Lake


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[> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- Chuck Henry, 14:23:06 11/20/08 Thu

OK, thanks for the clarification.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- brian, 05:52:46 12/09/08 Tue

david because of the differant functions of irons, woods, and driver, would not that vary the ball position on those different clubs


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- David Lake, 06:07:38 12/09/08 Tue

Brian,

Absolutely not. The club length will increase due to the sweeping action (flatter swing plane) required with woods over irons, but the ball position should remain the same (center of stance). In every case, a forward ball position encourages a lateral swaying motion towards the target through impact which drastically reduces your potential for power and crisp ball striking.

David


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- brian, 06:23:43 12/09/08 Tue

thanks for your quick reply. it would seem to me that the height the ball is ted up with identical ball positions would cause the ball to impact higher on the clubface. does the longer shaft length and flatter swing plane correct that also?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- brian (curious), 09:17:59 12/09/08 Tue

does anyone remember wedgy winchester? i seem to remember him hitting a extra large shaft driver for extra distance.if shaft length has nothing to do with distance, how did he do this. i hope this is not a stupid question, but i am curious... any comments would be appreciated.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- David Lake, 08:46:33 12/10/08 Wed

Brian,

The ball position we suggest is center of stance which refers to the ball position in a horizontal plane. This has nothing to do with the height at which you tee the ball (vertical plane) nor where you impact the ball on the clubface.

The fact is that the ball is teed up with a driver where it is not with a fairway wood. Therefore, the driver requires a flatter swing plane than a fairway wood and, hence, a longer club length.

There have been a few exhibition golfers who (in their performances) used drivers that were 12" to 24" longer than standard drivers. They did hit the ball farther than they could with standard length drivers; however, they practiced with them constantly just as any performer would practice their routine for a show. The fact is that the average golfer could no more hit a driver that was 58" to 70" long than the man in the moon regardless of how much practice was involved. Some of these exhibition golfers also use a rope in place of a steel shaft, and again, they hit the ball well. What you have to remember is that these people are performers, no different than a sword swallower or juggler, and they practice diligently for their show. There is no parallel or correlation that can be drawn between a "show business" type of golf exhibition and real golf.

David


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- brian (grateful), 09:45:58 12/10/08 Wed

dave,thank you so much for your responce.one more question if you please.on your wood specs you have the driver angle at 60 degrees and your fairway woods at 58 degrees,is that because of the different length of the driver being longer than the fairway woods?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- David Lake, 13:29:35 12/10/08 Wed

Brian,

Lie angles in relation to club lengths are crucial only for golf clubs designed to make contact with the ground at impact. This is the case with both our irons and fairway woods. However, since a driver never makes contact with the ground you can use any lie angle (within reason) depending upon how you wish the club to perform. Our 1 Iron Driver was designed with an upright lie angle (60º) to eliminate the tendency of most golfers to slice or push the ball to the right.

David Lake


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- brian (enlihgtened), 15:43:34 12/10/08 Wed

David, I appreciate your knowledge and honesty, I have used a set of Hogan medallions from 1979. they are all bent upright 2 degrees,I don't hit them all real well but I know them pretty well. I could not justify getting a new set playing as little as I do,however I am considering purchasing a set with my 10 year bonus check. I enjoy the forum and your website during these cold months of notheast ohio weather. thanks again Brian.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Driver Length -- Brian (embarrassed), 16:14:37 12/10/08 Wed

David, after reading my response it sounded as if I was going to purchase some more Hogans. No I meant to say I planned on purchasing a set of I Irons. I am thinking 3-pw plus gw,sw,and lw. Then driver, 3 wood, and 5 wood. Brian


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