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Date Posted: 07:56:44 04/20/08 Sun
Author: Jeff
Subject: Re: Long short irons
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Stan
's message, "Re: Long short irons" on 07:11:31 04/19/08 Sat
I never said that 1-Iron's philosophy was that long irons are too long. I simply said that the longer clubs are more difficult to hit for me and the shorter ones are easier to hit.
Currently I have better consistency with my gap wedge than I do with my 7 iron. I'm just having a hard time seeing how making my wedges longer will make them easier to hit for me.
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Re: Long short irons -- David Lake, 16:43:55 04/20/08 Sun
Jeff,
You did not mention your W-T-F measurement. In your case the club length of a conventional gap wedge might be the correct club length for all of your irons.
Bear in mind that 1 Irons are built to the length of a properly fitted short/mid iron based upon the W-T-F measurement of the individual golfer. For the taller player this may be the length of a conventional #3 or #4 iron while for the shorter player it might be the length (or even shorter) of a conventional wedge.
David Lake
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Re: Long short irons -- Jeff, 18:02:03 04/20/08 Sun
My w-t-f is 35.5, which I believe with your formula, equates to the length of my current standard 7 iron.
I'm not saying I hit my 7 iron poorly, just that it feels like there's more finesse involved with the wedges. I'm usually doing less than a full swing, and usually making good center-face contact. While my 7 iron is almost always a full (100%) swing. Which is probably why there's a higher frequency of mis-hits.
Now I guess you could say that I could be just as accurate by doing less than a full swing with my 7 iron. Maybe true. But for me, mis-hits with wedges are usually a lot more troublesome than with the longer clubs. It usually ends up being bladed and going 40yds past the green, or flubbed and going no where.
So I guess my concern is doing anything that could make an already delicate short-game even more "fragile".
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Re: Long short irons -- David Lake, 20:50:57 04/20/08 Sun
Jeff,
Based upon your W-T-F measurement your 1 Irons would be approximately the equivalent of a conventional #8 iron in club length, weight, and lie angle.
Most golfers have trouble with their wedges and blade a lot of shots due to the high degree of bounce angle typically found in conventional wedges (12º-14º in the Sw, and 8-10º in the Lw). All of our wedges, with the exception of the Sw, have the same 3º bounce angle as the rest of the irons within a set. Our Sw has only a 6º bounce angle coupled with a wider sole than the rest of our irons making it an ideal iron out of the sand and an extremely playable iron from a close cut fairway or hardpan. Bladed shots simply do not occur with 1 Iron wedges.
David Lake
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Re: Long short irons -- Jeff, 06:29:16 04/21/08 Mon
"Bladed shots simply do not occur with 1 Iron wedges."
Thanks David. But that's a pretty bold statement there.
I'll agree that the number of bladed shots would be reduced based on the reduced bounce angle. But I'm pretty sure there's still a chance of a bladed shot. Granted due to swing error, but the possibility still exists.
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Re: Long short irons -- Fred, 14:54:16 04/21/08 Mon
I think what David means is if you ask most golfers how often they blade their wedges the answer will be fairly high but if you ask them how often they blade their 8 iron their answer will be never.
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