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Subject Author Date Volcanic eruptions change weather patterns larry 10:29:03 11/24/06 Fri But, but, but -- they said SUV's were responsible. -- Curmudgeon, 18:27:46 11/24/06 Fri poor poor Curmudgeon.. -- sci guy, 21:34:53 11/24/06 Fri Re: poor poor Curmudgeon.. -- Duncan7, 06:24:51 11/25/06 Sat actually not. -- sci guy, 22:41:57 11/25/06 Sat Re: actually not. -- Duncan7, 08:24:15 11/26/06 Sun Your "RW spin doctor" was AlGore, you Buffoon! -- Curmudgeon, 07:13:10 11/27/06 Mon Just because he said it once, doesn't mean he wasthe FIRST -- sci guy, 14:40:58 11/27/06 Mon Hey C, is this the same guy... -- DE, 10:51:08 11/28/06 Tue One and the same. In fairness, if -- Curmudgeon, 16:27:00 11/28/06 Tue Wasn't that the crisis de jeur in the 70's? It's hard to -- Curmudgeon, 16:37:06 11/25/06 Sat PS. Not all agree. -- Curmudgeon, 16:44:21 11/25/06 Sat You DO understand average temperature, don't you? -- sci guy, 22:46:02 11/25/06 Sat Which is WHY.. -- .DE, 07:41:47 11/26/06 Sun Better than you Queenie. The volcanic eruptions also reduced -- c, 07:03:38 11/27/06 Mon Oops -- forget this premature post. -- Curmudgeon, 07:06:34 11/27/06 Mon since when is northern africa the whole world? -- sci guy, 14:30:14 11/27/06 Mon Never claimed it was Queenie -- merely -- Curmudgeon, 08:44:17 11/28/06 Tue wow. that's a reach. -- sci guy, 15:44:38 11/28/06 Tue I guess the growing Hubbard Glacier in Alaska -- Curmudgeon, 16:37:38 11/28/06 Tue Again... one local effect.... -- sci guy, 19:23:08 11/28/06 Tue Re: Again... one local effect.... -- Duncan7, 08:40:51 11/29/06 Wed Better than you Queenie. Careful reading reveals: -- Curmudgeon, 07:04:54 11/27/06 Mon and again... -- sci guy, 14:33:15 11/27/06 Mon Pssst idiot... -- DE, 14:53:51 12/04/06 Mon Test -- Curmudgeon, 07:34:58 12/27/06 Wed Test 2 -- Curmudgeon, 09:56:11 12/29/06 Fri Test 3 -- Curmudgeon, 10:43:54 12/30/06 Sat MONEY talks ... DE goes he he... 16:16:43 12/26/06 Tue Ripped from the headlines... DE 05:14:26 12/26/06 Tue Native americans in CANADA screw eco nuts.... DE 06:31:23 12/24/06 Sun Energizer Bunny... DE 05:31:35 12/20/06 Wed Big whooptie woo...so what. No biggie... DE 18:54:53 12/18/06 Mon Reminder to EX from the management.... DE 03:50:44 12/15/06 Fri "Cow 'emissions' more damaging to planet than CO2 from cars" -- Curmudgeon 09:54:12 12/11/06 Mon Who do we blame for Global Warming now....John Wayne? -- Oropan, 15:38:19 12/12/06 Tue So livestock give off more greenhouse -- Curmudgeon, 16:29:10 12/14/06 Thu Onions and Christmas trees Comic relief 11:11:42 12/14/06 Thu Deal on Tax Breaks Thursday Opens Way for Expanded Gulf Drilling DE 04:11:32 12/11/06 Mon The Absolute 'Final' Word on Global Warming Curmudgeon 14:08:58 12/07/06 Thu Not one hurricane strikes United States bubba 18:14:32 11/30/06 Thu The article says it all due to el nino there were not as many storms in the atlantic -- Bev, 11:13:49 12/01/06 Fri Well, responsible, level-headed climatologists and meteorologists pointed out last year that the uptick in hurricanes was part of a well-documented cycle and unusually warm Gulf waters... -- bubba, 14:51:05 12/01/06 Fri Well, responsible, level-headed climatologists and meteorologists pointed out last year that the uptick in hurricanes was part of a well-documented cycle and unusually warm Gulf waters... -- bubba, 14:54:03 12/01/06 Fri Cr*p! I hate double-posts....sigh. NT -- bubba, 14:55:54 12/01/06 Fri Record rain fall in Seattle during the three qtrs of Nov -- Bev, 16:44:07 12/01/06 Fri Like so what? -- DE, 04:10:31 12/04/06 Mon Freak weather in happening in the Pac instead of the Atlantic -- Bev, 10:00:15 12/04/06 Mon Weather is weather... -- De, 14:49:51 12/04/06 Mon Record rains are unusual in my area . What don't you understand about record rains -- Bev, 14:55:38 12/04/06 Mon Numbers go up... -- DE, 05:07:27 12/05/06 Tue "Record rains" and "not unusual to the pac coast " -- Curmudgeon, 12:16:58 12/05/06 Tue I did not say record rains are normal . I did say -- Bev, 09:14:39 12/06/06 Wed So wind does not blow down trees... -- DE, 17:55:05 12/06/06 Wed That would of course be ... -- DE, 04:11:43 12/04/06 Mon Contrary to all the false crap on the econut sites.... Oropan 15:18:05 12/05/06 Tue I remember Joylogger.... -- DE, 15:29:29 12/05/06 Tue When we libed in CT in the 60's, I learned -- Curmudgeon, 18:38:46 12/05/06 Tue Interesting Oropan 14:06:50 12/05/06 Tue If you do own stock... -- De, 15:26:42 12/05/06 Tue Darwin was right... DE 04:17:34 12/04/06 Mon Its called CIVILIZATION... DE 04:07:10 12/04/06 Mon "Organic Foods: Are They Really Healthier?" Curmudgeon 07:07:24 12/02/06 Sat Restatement of the C mans statement... DE 04:22:55 12/01/06 Fri Thank you -- you said it better than I ever could. -- Curmudgeon, 08:36:36 12/01/06 Fri For the good Mr D... DE 05:17:32 11/29/06 Wed Re: For the good Mr D... -- Duncan7, 08:36:55 11/29/06 Wed In refrence to the statement... -- DE, 04:29:22 11/30/06 Thu Re: In refrence to the statement... -- Duncan7, 08:55:22 11/30/06 Thu Something to think about--- -- DE, 05:14:29 12/01/06 Fri Not so new... DE 04:57:58 12/01/06 Fri Riding horses to work. I dont think so/math wise... DE 04:41:07 11/30/06 Thu Holiday Season IDIOTS aka PETA... DE 05:28:27 11/29/06 Wed PSSST sci DE 04:45:55 11/29/06 Wed Nothing new here... DE 04:36:52 11/29/06 Wed OMG!!! GLobal cooling!!!! sci guy 16:43:50 11/24/06 Fri SNOW sucks... -- DE, 04:53:46 11/27/06 Mon you obviously haven't seen the Kokanee girls... -- sci guy, 14:10:19 11/27/06 Mon Glacier fresh -- sci guy, 14:14:46 11/27/06 Mon btw... snow doesn't suck. It falls. -- sci guy, 14:20:14 11/27/06 Mon A few supermodels... -- DE, 04:38:22 11/28/06 Tue Supermodels? -- sci guy, 15:42:30 11/28/06 Tue Sci is such a liar... DE 03:34:45 11/24/06 Fri DE is such a liar... -- sci guy, 04:49:05 11/24/06 Fri And still a blantant bald faced liar, Sci... -- DE, 05:29:52 11/24/06 Fri Re: DE is such a liar... -- Duncan7, 08:22:09 11/24/06 Fri While I have sung the praises of certain projects -- sci guy, 10:43:22 11/24/06 Fri Re: While I have sung the praises of certain projects -- Duncan7, 06:20:10 11/25/06 Sat So what's your point? -- sci guy, 00:06:11 11/26/06 Sun How about... -- DE, 07:47:31 11/26/06 Sun LOL I bet pursie boy scis fire fighting vehicles... -- DE, 07:46:16 11/26/06 Sun again... what's your point? -- sci guy, 23:42:53 11/26/06 Sun Such a flaming liar you are... -- DE, 10:54:03 11/28/06 Tue Russian Scientists Predict New Ice Age In 50 Years larry 10:25:58 11/24/06 Fri Obviously they didn't get the memo stating they should -- Curmudgeon, 16:48:00 11/25/06 Sat Top 10 most poluted places ... DE 05:34:42 11/21/06 Tue ever stop to think... -- sci guy, 23:04:03 11/21/06 Tue That would make me the happiest person.. -- DE, 10:50:05 11/22/06 Wed That would make me the happiest person.... -- DE, 10:50:33 11/22/06 Wed Re: ever stop to think... -- Duncan7, 22:28:33 11/22/06 Wed ECO Freaks keep saying there are too many people... DE 04:26:19 11/15/06 Wed Re: ECO Freaks keep saying there are too many people... -- Duncan7, 09:30:10 11/15/06 Wed In re to the state of medical technology... -- DE, 15:06:06 11/15/06 Wed Another medical problem is... -- DE, 15:26:48 11/15/06 Wed Re: Another medical problem is... -- Duncan7, 09:04:47 11/16/06 Thu timeline my good bud time line... -- DE, 15:04:43 11/16/06 Thu You're right DE... -- sci guy, 14:06:07 11/16/06 Thu People die of many things... -- DE, 14:49:01 11/16/06 Thu So you stil lthink that twice as many chines as exist need to die? -- sci guy, 22:59:42 11/16/06 Thu From a loggistics point of view... -- DE, 02:44:49 11/17/06 Fri The value of human life... -- DE, 02:47:49 11/17/06 Fri Re: So you stil lthink that twice as many chines as exist need to die? -- Duncan7, 08:53:54 11/17/06 Fri so yo uagree with DE?????? -- sci guy, 01:04:28 11/18/06 Sat Re: so yo uagree with DE?????? -- Duncan7, 09:07:20 11/18/06 Sat NEED is irrelevant... -- DE, 16:06:32 11/18/06 Sat As an aside, how many know that since the -- Curmudgeon, 09:30:40 11/19/06 Sun unfortunately.... -- sci guy, 10:50:26 11/19/06 Sun TIME is irrelevant as long as the goal is reached. -- DE, 05:39:59 11/20/06 Mon Re: unfortunately.... -- Duncan7, 08:04:33 11/20/06 Mon Thanks guys for rebutting the little twerp's -- Curmudgeon, 08:33:05 11/21/06 Tue Actually..... -- sci guy, 07:50:50 11/22/06 Wed Re: Actually..... -- Duncan7, 22:24:40 11/22/06 Wed Just a reminder for the good members of the board... DE 05:44:04 11/20/06 Mon Just to let the board members know... DE 09:25:30 11/12/06 Sun here's a photo for you to use -- sci guy, 14:10:04 11/14/06 Tue Of clear cuts will offend your tender -- Curmudgeon, 16:47:00 11/14/06 Tue Looks like British Columbia to me... -- bubba, 07:08:47 11/15/06 Wed twas Oregon, actually -- sci guy, 08:05:59 11/15/06 Wed Re: twas Oregon, actually -- bubba, 13:36:37 11/15/06 Wed I found one that is close... -- DE, 15:10:08 11/15/06 Wed Yes, it's a good one. No doubt. nt -- bubba, 14:26:11 11/16/06 Thu here's another yo can use. -- sci guy, 14:27:47 11/14/06 Tue one more photo you could choose... -- sci guy, 14:40:30 11/14/06 Tue i had a photo you could use. -- Larry, 16:05:18 11/14/06 Tue New Picture... DE 03:59:30 11/15/06 Wed you might want a different source -- sci guy, 13:03:08 11/15/06 Wed Tyson Foods Sees Higher Meat Prices larry 15:58:33 11/14/06 Tue It is quite true... -- DE, 03:40:56 11/15/06 Wed Vacancies at the Inn comming soon... DE 09:19:20 11/12/06 Sun 30 Grand Duncan7 22:27:11 10/03/06 Tue $19,000 when they increase production -- sci guy, 12:42:18 10/04/06 Wed Sure you will -- on a fireman's salary? -- Curmudgeon, 16:24:18 10/04/06 Wed A couple months ago there were several clips on Seattle tv -- Bev, 14:26:05 10/05/06 Thu What does that have to do with what Queenie makes as a fireman in Vancouver, BC? -- Curmudgeon, 17:04:28 10/05/06 Thu Do you know how much Sci guy makes . -- Bev, 13:50:43 10/07/06 Sat IF Canada or the town of V is stupid enough... -- DE, 05:38:31 10/16/06 Mon Perhaps where you live . -- Bev, 14:33:34 10/20/06 Fri Fire is irrelevant ... -- DE, 08:42:50 10/22/06 Sun Ca is not the only place that has earthquake ins. Get with it DE . -- Bev, 15:20:38 10/26/06 Thu PSSST dumb azz... -- DE, 05:03:10 11/02/06 Thu awww.. did your policy get cancelled, DE???` -- sci guy, 18:31:20 11/05/06 Sun UFOs do not actually exist ya know... -- DE, 09:16:04 11/12/06 Sun over $70,000 last year, laughing boy. -- sci guy, 07:26:00 10/08/06 Sun Wow!!! You're RICH!!! And you get to -- Curmudgeon, 10:36:39 10/08/06 Sun Hmmm C, I wonder if... -- DE, 05:39:52 10/11/06 Wed it's all in the contract. -- sci guy, 10:17:45 10/11/06 Wed Like I give a flying F what you think.... -- DE, 05:36:08 10/13/06 Fri Re: $19,000 when they increase production -- Duncan7, 23:03:10 10/04/06 Wed I should also add -- Duncan7, 23:07:22 10/04/06 Wed 30 Mph is city speed.... -- sci guy, 07:28:43 10/08/06 Sun Re: 30 Mph is city speed.... -- Duncan7, 20:25:57 10/08/06 Sun LIke I said.... -- sci guy, 00:45:46 10/09/06 Mon Re: LIke I said.... -- Duncan7, 14:19:44 10/09/06 Mon Intended humor?... DE 09:12:01 11/12/06 Sun Still winning, sorry we are out of fish ... DE 05:10:17 11/09/06 Thu I like tuna! However, ocean fisheries are being driven, primarily by the EU, China, Taiwan and Japan, to a "Tragedy of the Commons" scenario -- bubba, 07:47:30 11/09/06 Thu Probably true... -- DE, 09:02:49 11/12/06 Sun Still winning, AK shoots down oil tax... DE 04:36:20 11/10/06 Fri Anothrer Democrat who never saw an opportunity -- Curmudgeon, 10:00:06 11/11/06 Sat 20+% Ethanol Industry Growth Duncan7 08:30:48 11/08/06 Wed Along with wind power, ethanol has become the newest big thing in the Midwest and Great Plains... -- bubba, 11:54:56 11/08/06 Wed Re: Along with wind power, ethanol has become the newest big thing in the Midwest and Great Plains... -- Duncan7, 22:20:45 11/08/06 Wed Re: Along with wind power, ethanol has become the newest big thing in the Midwest and Great Plains... -- Larry, 15:39:49 11/09/06 Thu Re: Along with wind power, ethanol has become the newest big thing in the Midwest and Great Plains... -- Duncan7, 22:07:25 11/09/06 Thu Brought to you courtesy of Arthur Daniel Midland. We -- Curmudgeon, 16:31:53 11/09/06 Thu Re: Brought to you courtesy of Arthur Daniel Midland. We -- Oropan, 05:36:48 11/10/06 Fri Here's the link -- Oropan, 05:41:31 11/10/06 Fri Oro, the nutroots added ADM to their evil pantheon of the ruling corporcracy long ago... -- bubba, 11:26:47 11/10/06 Fri Go figure! Nothing sucessful can be allowed in their tiny little minded World and -- Oropan, 11:52:15 11/10/06 Fri Off Topic: 7:55 p.m.; "Predictions....... bubba 17:21:03 11/07/06 Tue Sorry YOu lost the house and I think also lost the senate -- Bev, 00:24:09 11/08/06 Wed Yeah, not a single correct prognostication... -- bubba, 06:13:00 11/08/06 Wed VETO baby... -- DE, 11:11:14 11/08/06 Wed Yeah, we just have to wage a two year holding action against the forces of tyranny... -- bubba, 12:02:46 11/08/06 Wed whoo boy! -- Rim, 19:23:25 11/08/06 Wed I happen to agree with Bubba... -- DE, 04:44:21 11/09/06 Thu Rummy, I'm just warming up the discourse and rhetorical lessons... -- bubba, 07:11:36 11/09/06 Thu well it IS your turn -- Rim, 21:13:40 11/09/06 Thu A rather sub-average performance, certainly -- Curmudgeon, 11:33:03 11/08/06 Wed Yeah, not quite the tectonic shift as the MSM is portraying it to be...nt -- bubba, 12:12:20 11/08/06 Wed Not sub average cur just average -- Bev, 15:29:44 11/09/06 Thu nice to see you bubba... -- sci guy, 01:37:35 11/08/06 Wed I'm fine. How are you Sci?... -- bubba, 06:24:14 11/08/06 Wed I'm good, Bubba. Happy and healthy -- sci guy, 13:31:55 11/08/06 Wed Yes good to see you !!!!!! Still have you in my prayers every night nt -- Bev, 11:08:43 11/08/06 Wed Thanks, Bev.... -- bubba, 12:10:26 11/08/06 Wed they say time heals all wounds... -- sci guy, 13:37:31 11/08/06 Wed Glad to see you're back -- we've missed you. -- Curmudgeon, 11:34:05 11/08/06 Wed Well, I must admit that I've missed the board... -- bubba, 11:29:18 11/10/06 Fri Analysis: Israel sees shale replacing oil larry 15:53:56 11/09/06 Thu Still winning, Eco Freaks own people say so... DE 05:16:15 11/09/06 Thu It's pretty clear, the author has never flown coast to coast -- Curmudgeon, 11:57:36 11/09/06 Thu Still winning, more coal please.... DE 05:05:28 11/09/06 Thu Yes, embrace nuclear! Haven't some rational minds here been saying that for awhile now.... -- bubba, 07:20:13 11/09/06 Thu Still winning... DE 05:02:58 11/09/06 Thu I've just read in my latest Economist that deforestation has dropped by 30% each of the last two years... -- bubba, 07:15:02 11/09/06 Thu While one month does not a trend ake, Curmudgeon 17:00:45 11/07/06 Tue But, of course, one more active than normal hurricane certainly does... -- bubba, 17:30:10 11/07/06 Tue wow. you're finally getting it! -- sci guy, 01:32:45 11/08/06 Wed You already lost oh clown peasant of ignorance... -- DE, 04:51:25 11/09/06 Thu