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Date Posted: 20:58:14 08/27/08 Wed
Author: MAHARLIKA
Subject: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan

Mga mahal kong kaprobinsiya,

I am starting a new topic. It would be great if you chime in.

September is the month when we celebrate "Araw ng Nueva Ecija". However, I am not sure kung kailan sa September. Ano ba sa pakiwari ninyo ang significance ng araw na yon? Iyon ba ay araw ng pasasalamt sa Panginoon dahil sa kagandahan at kadakilaan ng ating lalawigan, or paggunita sa pang-aalipin sa atin ng mga Kastila ? (Hindi ko masabing kaunlaran dahil dinaig na tayo ng mga neighboring provinces sa growth and prosperity.).

Para sa akin ang "Araw Ng Nueva Ecija" ay isang paraan ng patuloy nating pagkilala sa kapangyarihan ng mga Kastilang umalipin sa atin sa loob ng mahigit na tatlong daang taon. Ipinagbili nga tayo sa USA noong 1898?, bakit ginugunita pa natin sila sa pamamagitan ng patuloy na paggamit ng wikang Kastila sa pangalan ng ating lalawigang Nueva Ecija?

I say let's start a petition going to change our province's name to Quezon or Joson or Umali, or Aleta, or General Tinio, or del Pilar, etc. Hindi ba mas maganda if we honor one of our heroes by naming our province after him/her? Alam kong magastos dahil papalitang lahat ang mga signs, stationeries, names of buildings, etc., etc. Pero sa palagay ko its worth all the expenses and efforts dahil tayo ay makakawala ng buong-buo sa mga kuko ng mga mapangalipin na mga dayuhan. Goobbye colonial and crab mentality, maybe!

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- aj, 23:12:46 08/27/08 Wed

Ang pagdiriwang ay paraan ng pasasalamat sa mga bagay na natatamo natin at kung anong mayroon tayo sa ating mahal na probinsya, pagkat ito ay bahagi ng kulturang pilipino.Wag nating sisihin ang mga bansang nanakop sa atin at sa mga bagay na naibahagi nila sa ating kasalukuyang panahon sapagkat bilang indibiduwal ay mayroon tayong sariling desisyon sa mga bagay na nais nating gawin.Pulutin natin ang mga magaganda at inaakala nating makakatulong sa pagsulong ng ating buhay at sa pagiging makabuluhang mamamayan sa komunidad na ating kinabibilangan.Ang pangalan ng probinsya ay walang kinalaman sa ugali ng mga taong naninirahan pagkat ito ay pagkakakilanlan lamang or identity kung saan tayong lugar nabibilang at wag na po natin lingunin ang mga pangit na nakaraan (pag-alipusta ng mga nanakop)bagkus ay tingnan natin ang daan na ating hinahakbangan tungo sa maunlad na kinabukasan.Ang katagang Nueva Ecija (Novo Ecijano) ay kastila ang nagbigay pero matama nating isipin na ang mga pangalan na iyong binanggit (Quezon, Joson, etc..) ay sa kanila din nagmula.

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- Pagasa (?), 00:49:24 08/28/08 Thu

Kaibigang Maharlika, ipagpaumanhin mo kung ako ay hindi sumang-ayon sa panukala mong palitan ang pangalan ng Nueva Ecija nating mahal.
Unang una, gaya ng nasabi mo, hindi maliit na halaga ang gugugulin ng lalawigan upang kagyat na mapalitan ang pangalan ng Nueva Ecija.Hindi ganun kadali pare ko. Ito ay dadaan sa mahabang proseso gaya ng pagpapalit ng apelyido ng isang tao.
Mawawala ang historical relevance ng ating mahal na Nueva Ecija kung ito ay papalitan mo ng pangalan sapagkat ang NE ay sumasagisag sa isa sa 8 sinag ng araw sa ating bandila.
Madami pang ibang bagay na isa-saalang alang 'igan, upang mapalitan ang pangalan ng isang lugar, bayan o lalawigan. Bukod sa aking nabanggit, marahil ay madaming mas maganda at kapaki pakinabang na proyekto na lamang ang pag ukulan ng salapi na gugugulin sa panukala mo.
Sana ay maunawaan mo ang aking side pare ko.
Magandang araw sa iyo.

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[> [> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- ECjano, 20:43:53 08/28/08 Thu

Medyo mahirap makumbinsi ang mga posters dito na sumangayon sa panukala ni Maharlika.Dahil lang ba galing sa dayuhan yoong pangalan ay katwiran ng palitan?Pagka gayon ay pati mga bayan bayan ay madadamay,mawawala pati mga santo at santa tulad ng San Antonio,San Leonardo,Santa Rosa,San Ysidro,Sto Domingo at iba pa tulad ng Quezon,Mun^oz,etc.Baka yoong Bgy Barrera maging Bgy Pacman.Kahit si Kapitan Berong kung buhay,baka magalit din satin.

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- MAHARLIKA, 07:51:35 08/29/08 Fri

Kaibigang AJ, PAGASA, at ECJANO,

Let's open our minds and think outside the box for a moment. Historical documents state that "Spanish Governor Cruzar's nostalgia for his homeland (Andalucia, SPAIN) was the reason behind naming his new colony Nueva Ecija in 1705. Remember, Cruzar together with other Spaniards sailed thousands of miles away to colonize our country in the name of Christianity, to claim fame and glory for Spain their homeland. During the almost four hundred years, many Pilipino lives were lost fighting for our freedom. In the process, heroes were being born. Long after he's gone, it seems like Govenor Cruzar is still dominating us by keeping the name Nueva Ecija for our beloved province.

The historical relevance of our province will not be lost. Instead, our star on our flag will have a brighter shine. It will have a more positive impact especially to the youth because the new name will be associated with our freedom fighters, not the colonizers who came here many moons ago under pretense. In the culture, we name our children after a saint or a person we admire and respect. To me, this means that we continue to give reverence to the killers and colonizers that left their brand on our foreheads in the name of Nueva Ecija? Barangay Pacman is good. Manny is a hero. Kapitan Berong is good, because he is a hero also. The other names ECjano mentioned here are names of saints or heroes. I could say Nueva Ecija without thinking of Governor Cruzar. And that's not a good feeling. But of course, that's just me.

Mga kaibigan, this is my opinion, and I am entitled to it!

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[> [> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- MAHARLIKA, 07:54:28 08/29/08 Fri

Correction please... "I could NOT say Nueva Ecija without thinking about Governor Cruzar."

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[> [> [> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- ECjano, 14:51:41 08/30/08 Sat

Of course we respect everybody's opinion on this thread.Each one is entitled to his own.But while we try to espouse nationalism and erase the footprints of our colonial masters,we seem to crave for a 'Taco Bell' solution that will only suit the taste of a few.
Since we are very fond of writing and speaking in a borrowed language,we can probably name Nueva Ecija 'Newfoundland' or 'New York' or 'NewTownsville'instead of Bagong Bayan if we would patronize the local lingo.That is also rejecting the fact that many Filipinos are also descendants of the Castillanos and the christian majority has embraced their culture.

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- aj, 02:17:50 09/01/08 Mon

Kaibigang Maharlika,
It's everybody's prerogative to voice out their opinion and I really appreciate for having such discussions among us. I think renaming of our province has nothing to do with the improvement of the inhabitants nor the development of our beloved Nueva Ecija, and those horrible years of oppression from the hands of invaders has long been dead and buried. We have to make the past to guide us for the betterment of our future as well as the positive contribution to our community. It is imperative to our present leaders need a moral responsibility to uplift the lives of our kababayans whatever name we have in our province.

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- licabenio, 21:29:27 09/03/08 Wed

simple lang:

"ang isang bulaklak ba ay babango kung papalitan ito ng pangalan?"

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[> asaasaasaasaasaasaasa nag pangalan. -- asaasaasaasaasaasaasa (asaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasaasa), 03:11:51 09/18/08 Thu

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- MAHARLIKA, 10:21:57 11/28/08 Fri

Hello friends,

"Time for a change", says Obama, the newly elected US president. After reading all opinions expressed here at the forum, I say ... Yes We Can! New name for our province because the name Nueva Ecija is always associated with violence, and corruption. But one might argue, so does the country in general. Then maybe we should change the name of our country too! Remember, Russia was once USSR, Mumbai was once Bombay.... etc...

Happy Holidays,

MAHARLIKA

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- norberto angeles, 03:41:06 02/19/09 Thu

salamat sa pagpapakilalal mo sa akin kay Governor cruzar.kasi ipinanganak ako at lumaki sa nueva ecija na ang tanging alam lang ay ang pangalan ng nueva ecija ay galing sa "ecija,Spain".Paumanhin at kinapos ang natutunan sa kasaysayan.Ang aking ipapakita ay ang napanood ko sa Ten Commandments na movie sa bi ni Moses (chalton heston) ng malaman niya na siya ay anak ng alipin na hebrew ay 'ako pa rin ito,ang parehong Moises,maging ako ay anak ng alipin o anak ng kapatid na babae ng paraon" walang nababago. gayun din sa nueva ecija palitan man natin walang mababago ito pa rin ang lupang ating sinilangan

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- tonyo, 18:51:15 04/07/09 Tue

mga hinayupak kayong mga gunggong. sige palitan ninyo ang pangalan ng ating lalawigan. alam ba ninyo ang mangyayari kung ito ay napalitan? baka nakailang salinlahi na tayo ay minumura pa tayo ng ating mga kaapo-apuhan. ang mahalaga'y mabago natin ang pamamalakad ng ating bayan ng guminhawa tayong lahat hindi ang pangalang nueva ecija ang inyong napagdidiskitahan. anong masama sa nueva ecija? mayaman ang ating kultura sa ilalim ng pangalang nueva ecija.

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[> Re: Nueva Ecija palitan natin ang pangalan -- jonalyn (wala po sa pangalan ang pag unlad ng bayan...), 08:36:02 05/03/09 Sun

Magandang araw po,

minsan po ako ay may isang kaibigang nakachat,napag usapan namin ang ating bansa at ang pulitika nito.ang sabi ko sa aking kaibigan,dapat ay palitan lahat ng nakaupo sa ating gobyerno,ibahin ang batas,ng sa gayon ay magkaroon ng pagbabago sa ating bansa,dahil, ang sabi ko pa hanggat may nakaupo na lumang pulitiko ay di mababago ang patakbo ng ating batas.ang sagot sa akin ng aking kaibigan ay ganito: kahit palitan mo ang lahat ng nakaupo sa gobyerno hindi uunlad ang Pilipinas kung ang mentalidad ay katulad din ng mentalidad ng mga pulitikong corrupt na inalis mo.kung tutuusin tama po sya,nakalagay din po sa Bible,wag mong ilagay ang bagong alak sa lumang lalagyan dahil itoy maglalasang luma din,para po iyang nagpalit kayo ng bagong damit,mamahalin,de pangalan,maganda, pero di po kayo naligo,ganyan din po ang suggestion ninyo na palitan ang pangalan ng Nueva ecija,kahit po palitan natin ang pangalan ng ating lalawigan,kung ang mga taong nakatira dito at ang mga namumuno dito ay ganoon pa rin ang mentalidad, ang ating pong bayan ay walang pag unlad,Ang atin pong bansang Pilipinas,hindi po ba ang pangalan ng ating bansa ay bigay din Dayuhan?(sa akin pong pag kakaalam ito po ay isinunod sa pangalan ni King Philip ng Spain)sa palagay nyo po pag pinalitan ang Pangalang Pilipinas,magiging maunlad na ang ating bansa.siguro po baguhin muna natin ang ating mentalidad,ang ating pamumuhay,ang ating pakikitungo sa ating kapwa,bago po natin isiping baguhin ang pangalan ng ating lalawigan.
Maraming Salamat po!!!

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