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Willie
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Date Posted: 01:57:45 08/06/03 Wed
In reply to: Fitz 's message, "Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable" on 16:37:53 08/05/03 Tue

Hi Fitz,

Well I have gradually come around to the idea that sending CVs is a load of bollocks. I'm at the age when you and I were taking our first employment steps in the 80s when it was considered unlikely someone would be employable -- not far off 40 and toiling around in a shrinking job market.

What's interesting to me is that there has always been a particular pigeonhole into which particular jobs and skills "fit". The classic one is a tale I told on here some time ago:

I phoned a number in search of an advertised Receptionist's job and was finally told "But we're looking for a girl." I wasn't asked one thing about any skills whatsoever.

So I'm taking what I know from this useless quest for gainful employment and trying to do something with it. Many of the email addresses one sends the invisible C.V. to have their own server but have no accompanying Website. The best they have is one of those "This site is reserved for a customer" pages. If I can't get the fuckers to let me answer their phones, maybe I can get them to allow me to make a Website. We'll see.

What bugs me most is that I was doing all this job-hunting shite 20 years ago and I got no-where then. I don't really expect to now either.

-- Willie

>Willie...it's me..... the missing link...
>If I recommended a book that I've read recently would
>you ask to borrow it or tell me where to shove it ?
>I've been looking around lately because I'm stuck in a
>rut in my job and seeing as I spend more time there
>than I do at home with the kids it had better be
>stimulating.... so i've been reading a bit about this
>whole career-life-job hunt thing.
>
>Frankly you were smarter some 20 years ago than all of
>the gobshites I'm working with now. There's nothing
>doing in my neck of the woods at the moment but if
>you want to call/mail and talk about some ideas then
>give me a shout.
>
>You are able to paint vivid pictures with words -
>that's a gift and anyone who says differently should
>consider a career in teaching.... There are businesses
>out there that need smart people like you. The
>problem is finding them.... because they're not going
>to find you that's for sure (if they could find you
>they'd be smarter than they are now and probably
>wouldn't need to hire you.... but let's not go down
>that road.....).
>For what it's worth... here's my advice....it's worth
>what you're paying for it......
>Agencies are a waste of energy and time. Sending CVs
>has limited success. You know what you're good and
>and what you want to do. I suggest you follow the
>'networking' path... tell anyone and everyone what you
>do and that you're available to do it for anyone who
>will pay you. If you know of (or can find) a business
>that might possibly need your skills then try to find
>out if you know someone (or someone who knows someone)
>who works there. Once you get the basic link to a real
>human being who has the authority to either hire
>someone or contract someone then you talk to them.....
>not the organ grinders monkey.
>
>Hmmm. Now that I've read some of that back it looks
>like pure shite. But give me a shout and I'll fill you
>in on some of the stuff I've learned - I've been
>interviewing people for a few years and it never
>ceases to amaze me that I've had to go looking for
>smart people to hire... they never seemed to come to
>me... A lot of folks who mentioned to me that they did
>such-and-such and were available actually got
>something because I remembered them.... I've read
>dozens, any hundreds, of CVs. Can't remember a single
>one of the bastards. not one. But I do remember this
>fella Larry Bass who cornered me at a party and told
>me about his ideas for making videos and stuff. He
>quietly bought the 'Popstars' franchise for a pittance
>and produced the series... bastard.... I should have
>nicked his ideas ;-)

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Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable Angh 13:06:49 08/06/03 Wed

Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable -- Frank, 16:15:57 08/06/03 Wed

Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable -- Willie, 02:24:18 08/07/03 Thu

Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable -- Frank, 09:57:30 08/07/03 Thu
Re: I'm beginning to suspect I'm unemployable -- Angh, 12:20:34 08/08/03 Fri

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>Hi Fitz, > >Well I have gradually come around to the idea that >sending CVs is a load of bollocks. I'm at the age >when you and I were taking our first employment steps >in the 80s when it was considered unlikely someone >would be employable -- not far off 40 and toiling >around in a shrinking job market. > >What's interesting to me is that there has always been >a particular pigeonhole into which particular jobs and >skills "fit". The classic one is a tale I told on >here some time ago: > >I phoned a number in search of an advertised >Receptionist's job and was finally told "But we're >looking for a girl." I wasn't asked one thing about >any skills whatsoever. > >So I'm taking what I know from this useless quest for >gainful employment and trying to do something with it. > Many of the email addresses one sends the invisible >C.V. to have their own server but have no accompanying >Website. The best they have is one of those "This >site is reserved for a customer" pages. If I can't >get the fuckers to let me answer their phones, maybe I >can get them to allow me to make a Website. We'll see. > >What bugs me most is that I was doing all this >job-hunting shite 20 years ago and I got no-where >then. I don't really expect to now either. > >-- Willie > > >>Willie...it's me..... the missing link... >>If I recommended a book that I've read recently would >>you ask to borrow it or tell me where to shove it ? >>I've been looking around lately because I'm stuck in a >>rut in my job and seeing as I spend more time there >>than I do at home with the kids it had better be >>stimulating.... so i've been reading a bit about this >>whole career-life-job hunt thing. >> >>Frankly you were smarter some 20 years ago than all of >>the gobshites I'm working with now. There's nothing >>doing in my neck of the woods at the moment but if >>you want to call/mail and talk about some ideas then >>give me a shout. >> >>You are able to paint vivid pictures with words - >>that's a gift and anyone who says differently should >>consider a career in teaching.... There are businesses >>out there that need smart people like you. The >>problem is finding them.... because they're not going >>to find you that's for sure (if they could find you >>they'd be smarter than they are now and probably >>wouldn't need to hire you.... but let's not go down >>that road.....). >>For what it's worth... here's my advice....it's worth >>what you're paying for it...... >>Agencies are a waste of energy and time. Sending CVs >>has limited success. You know what you're good and >>and what you want to do. I suggest you follow the >>'networking' path... tell anyone and everyone what you >>do and that you're available to do it for anyone who >>will pay you. If you know of (or can find) a business >>that might possibly need your skills then try to find >>out if you know someone (or someone who knows someone) >>who works there. Once you get the basic link to a real >>human being who has the authority to either hire >>someone or contract someone then you talk to them..... >>not the organ grinders monkey. >> >>Hmmm. Now that I've read some of that back it looks >>like pure shite. But give me a shout and I'll fill you >>in on some of the stuff I've learned - I've been >>interviewing people for a few years and it never >>ceases to amaze me that I've had to go looking for >>smart people to hire... they never seemed to come to >>me... A lot of folks who mentioned to me that they did >>such-and-such and were available actually got >>something because I remembered them.... I've read >>dozens, any hundreds, of CVs. Can't remember a single >>one of the bastards. not one. But I do remember this >>fella Larry Bass who cornered me at a party and told >>me about his ideas for making videos and stuff. He >>quietly bought the 'Popstars' franchise for a pittance >>and produced the series... bastard.... I should have >>nicked his ideas ;-)

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