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Date Posted: - Sunday - 05/21/06 - 10:25am
Author: Randall
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 24.5.43.231
Subject: Mast Head Rig Question

I'm replacing the main mast head fitting (the "basket" the upper stays fit into, etc.)

It's made out of stainless steel.

The quote I got from a reputable yard was $x to make it and $xxx to polish it.

I can't really afford to have it polished, and I don't really have time to source a cheaper place for fabrication.

From a purely functional stand point, do I need to have it polished?

RR

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[> Mast head plate -- Wes, - Monday - 05/22/06 - 11:06am (dsl-201-121-95-235.prod-infinitum.com.mx/201.121.95.235)

My experience is, it all rusts just the same.
Aren't you sailing that boat yet??
Wes

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[> [> Dude, not sailing yet... -- Randall, - Monday - 05/22/06 - 9:31pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

But thanks for askin. We had a little misshap w/the tank order, which just arrived (for the second time) last week.

Apart from being a thing of beauty, the new tank is also perfect. With the extra time from the delay I've stripped the toe rail to bare wood and recalked the seam; then layered up the rail w/cetol light. Am also stripping the main mast to bare wood (to see what's underneath--and so far "underneath" looks OK).

This last weekend got the cockpit sides screwed and glued along w/the frames (and yes, I remembered to put the tank in first--phewww!).

I am under orders to be sailing again by the end of June... I'm OK w/that...

RR

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[> [> OK, WES, I'M SAILING NOW! :) -- Randall, - Monday - 06/26/06 - 8:19pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

The cockpit is done.

We stepped the masts on Friday. Finished about 7pm. As the harbor master was shutting down the crane, he said, "I'll be around on Saturday if you forgot something and need to go up the mast again." But I was off the dock and motoring home by 9pm; was in our old slip about 15 miles down bay by midnight. Cold night--crisp and breezy enough to clear ones lungs of months of paint and epoxy. Just enough chop to mist the boat and me with the taste of salt. Fog over the headlands, but stars above. Stars above a boat that moves again.

Endless cleaning on Saturday. Found tools I didn't even know I had and then five (5) half-used rolls of blue tape. Why could I never find that tape when I needed it?

Bent the sails on Sunday morning. Went for a brief sail to make sure such was possible, but was too pooped for what was blowing in the slot, so anchored in Richardson and slept all afternoon.

Good to be done.

RR

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[> Mariner Mast Head Rigging -- Kathy Campbell, - Tuesday - 05/23/06 - 1:54am (netblock-66-245-194-37.dslextreme.com/66.245.194.37)

Joanna & Randall,
Are you guys turning your masts while they're down? We've replaced our mast head with an identical type mariner mast head and now wished we had replaced the mast head with a more traditional mast wythe/cranz iron. This would be much cheaper and probable stronger. Also, another rigging option is putting an eye splice in the stays around the mast and using a rigging cleat on each stay to keep the eye from slipping down. I'm sorry we didn't rig our mariner this way.
You guys don't need to worry about beating us back to the water. While taking the broken mast compression beam out, I decided to remove the bow sprite,since for years the laminated boards have been delaminating and any patching hasn't worked. So, I took it off and used goof off to loosen the rest of the glue so we could reglue the original sitca spruce with resorcinal glue. When the boards came apart there were termites through out. We found good sitca spruce in Santa Ana Ca. at Austin Hardwood at a little over 5 dollars a board foot. So, needless to say we're on the hard for a while.
Ive taken all the paint off the spars. You can see whats happening with the wood.
Yours truly, Kathy & Bill Campbell s\v SHADOW M323

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[> [> Unclear -- Randall, - Tuesday - 05/23/06 - 1:22pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

Not sure what you mean by "turning your mast". What's turning?

Good to know I'm not the only beached whale currently; though things are starting to come together here, it's been a long winter.

Sounds like you are doing a good deal of replacing and improving. Hopefully Bill is doing SOME of the work. You are getting some use out of him I hope. :)

I'm going w/the original masthead collar design. Am kind of done "improving" for a year or so. I'm only replacing it because there was a very small fracture at the weld for the fore stay vang. 30 years of service is pretty good!

Wish we were closer; I'd love to see what you all are up to and how you're going about it.

RR

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[> [> [> unsure mariner -- Kathy Campbell, - Wednesday - 05/24/06 - 1:24am (netblock-66-245-193-66.dslextreme.com/66.245.193.66)

Joanna & Randall,
Sure you know what I mean! An ole timer at a boat yard told me to make sure when the masts are down, that you turn the mast onto a different side periodicly, to prevent the mast from getting a bow or curve in it.
I promise I don't use the whip to hard on the captn, but the works gotta go on, you know.
I know we're in dire streights, beached like we are, but just remember "THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS"- whether you get away or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy messing about in boats.
messing about in boats, Kathy SHADOW

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[> [> [> [> Enlightenment!... -- Randall, - Thursday - 05/25/06 - 7:31pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

...comes slowly to some. For the life of me I could not imagine WHY, or for that matter HOW, you would turn your STEPPED mast seeing as how it is built to point in a particular direction, not to mention the absolute pain of having to shift all the hardware 1/4 around each time. Still laughing. But turning it while on horses, yes, I get that! Except the shive keeps falling out. Sheesh.

Ah, the whip. I hear it is still considered a positive motivating force, even by the likes of Dr. Phil, because when applied it makes positive contact and its results are largely positive in the eyes of the handler. Any complaints and no grog for a month!

Good luck w/that! :)

RR

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