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Date Posted: - Tuesday - 05/23/06 - 1:54am
Author: Kathy Campbell
Author Host/IP: netblock-66-245-194-37.dslextreme.com / 66.245.194.37
Subject: Mariner Mast Head Rigging
In reply to: Randall 's message, "Mast Head Rig Question" on - Sunday - 05/21/06 - 10:25am

Joanna & Randall,
Are you guys turning your masts while they're down? We've replaced our mast head with an identical type mariner mast head and now wished we had replaced the mast head with a more traditional mast wythe/cranz iron. This would be much cheaper and probable stronger. Also, another rigging option is putting an eye splice in the stays around the mast and using a rigging cleat on each stay to keep the eye from slipping down. I'm sorry we didn't rig our mariner this way.
You guys don't need to worry about beating us back to the water. While taking the broken mast compression beam out, I decided to remove the bow sprite,since for years the laminated boards have been delaminating and any patching hasn't worked. So, I took it off and used goof off to loosen the rest of the glue so we could reglue the original sitca spruce with resorcinal glue. When the boards came apart there were termites through out. We found good sitca spruce in Santa Ana Ca. at Austin Hardwood at a little over 5 dollars a board foot. So, needless to say we're on the hard for a while.
Ive taken all the paint off the spars. You can see whats happening with the wood.
Yours truly, Kathy & Bill Campbell s\v SHADOW M323

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[> [> Unclear -- Randall, - Tuesday - 05/23/06 - 1:22pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

Not sure what you mean by "turning your mast". What's turning?

Good to know I'm not the only beached whale currently; though things are starting to come together here, it's been a long winter.

Sounds like you are doing a good deal of replacing and improving. Hopefully Bill is doing SOME of the work. You are getting some use out of him I hope. :)

I'm going w/the original masthead collar design. Am kind of done "improving" for a year or so. I'm only replacing it because there was a very small fracture at the weld for the fore stay vang. 30 years of service is pretty good!

Wish we were closer; I'd love to see what you all are up to and how you're going about it.

RR

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[> [> [> unsure mariner -- Kathy Campbell, - Wednesday - 05/24/06 - 1:24am (netblock-66-245-193-66.dslextreme.com/66.245.193.66)

Joanna & Randall,
Sure you know what I mean! An ole timer at a boat yard told me to make sure when the masts are down, that you turn the mast onto a different side periodicly, to prevent the mast from getting a bow or curve in it.
I promise I don't use the whip to hard on the captn, but the works gotta go on, you know.
I know we're in dire streights, beached like we are, but just remember "THE WIND IN THE WILLOWS"- whether you get away or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy messing about in boats.
messing about in boats, Kathy SHADOW

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[> [> [> [> Enlightenment!... -- Randall, - Thursday - 05/25/06 - 7:31pm (64-161-221-132.opentable.com/64.161.221.132)

...comes slowly to some. For the life of me I could not imagine WHY, or for that matter HOW, you would turn your STEPPED mast seeing as how it is built to point in a particular direction, not to mention the absolute pain of having to shift all the hardware 1/4 around each time. Still laughing. But turning it while on horses, yes, I get that! Except the shive keeps falling out. Sheesh.

Ah, the whip. I hear it is still considered a positive motivating force, even by the likes of Dr. Phil, because when applied it makes positive contact and its results are largely positive in the eyes of the handler. Any complaints and no grog for a month!

Good luck w/that! :)

RR

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