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Date Posted: - Friday - 05/ 9/03 - 2:18pm
Author: Gene MS
Author Host/IP: sdn-ap-022txhousP0284.dialsprint.net / 65.177.33.30
Subject: Mizzen boom

I am missing some hardware to hang my mizzen boom onto, is this like a "goose neck fitting" ???

Does anyone have a close-up jpeg or description of what I need to mount on the mast?

This is a non-sailing question, Speedy....Remind me to tell
you the story about out-running a waterspout....

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[> Re: Mizzen boom -- John T, - Friday - 05/ 9/03 - 11:42pm (cache-rl05.proxy.aol.com/152.163.189.101)

Hello again Gene,
On my boat,the mizzen "goose neck" fitting as you call it,is a simple bronze,gudgeon and pintle type fitting.It allows the mizzen boom to travel freely through an arc limited only by the lower mizzen shrouds. Simple, and highly effective.I don't have digital pix capabilities as yet-but this shouldn't be too hard to put together.At the boom end is the "Jaws",and on the mast is the swivel.They are joined by a clevis and cotter pin.SIMPLE!
I really got a kick out of your comment about Speedy outrunning waterspouts.All in fun-but pretty soon he'll be planing A DISPLACEMENT HULL-that's why they call him Speedy.
Hope you are able to replace the missing fittings,and move yourself closer to launching day.
John T
VALERIAN

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[> [> Re: Mizzen boom -- John T, - Friday - 05/ 9/03 - 11:54pm (cache-rl05.proxy.aol.com/152.163.189.101)

Hey Gene,
Made a mistake when describing the arc of travel of the mizzen boom.It is limited by the placement of the port and starboard mainmast backstays.These are the sternmost stays and chainplates on the boat.
John T.

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[> [> [> On my Racing Mariner..... -- Speedy, - Sunday - 05/11/03 - 7:23pm (buc064068.pac.army.mil/143.45.64.68)

with the planning displacement hull, my booms are grudgeon and pintle types too which are mounted on a short track at the mast. This allows some adjustment, which is why my Mariner is so unGodly fast.

There is never a reason to sheet the mizzen out past the main mast backstays...at least not on the racing Mariner. If I'm that far off the wind, I'll drop it, unless I am too lazy to have hoisted the main.

6.6 knts S.O.G. yesterday. Went fishin' too. Set the mizzen, helm a tad to windward, and drifted with a 60g bottom rig. Caught grouper and goat fish. Looked small next to my friend's 480 pound Marlin.

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[> [> [> [> Re: On my Racing Mariner..... -- John T., - Wednesday - 05/14/03 - 11:17pm (cache-dl06.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.42)

...SOG of 6.6knts. is not uncommon.I have reached that speed any number of times.Of course,much depends on wind velocity,point of sail,amount of sail carried,and the set and speed of the current.There are a lot of variables-but there is no argument that the Mariners are surprisingly fast boats of their type-what is generally called a heavy,displacement,"character" boat.
I too like to fish from the boat while underway.I troll a line astern whenever I can,but sometimes it's difficult to keep the boat speed down to 4 knts,which is best for blues and striped bass.And heaving-to, under full sail,while single handing,and hauling in a 10-15 lb.bluefish can get crazy-but I manage.
A track on the mizzenmast to allow adjustment of the boom is interesting.I prefer a simple cunningham to adjust the tension on the luff of the sail.But to each his own.

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[> Re: Mizzen boom -- Bob Riggs, - Saturday - 05/10/03 - 9:50pm (1Cust108.tnt1.port-townsend.wa.da.uu.net/67.250.16.108)

Gene, there are a couple of marine consignment stores nearby. I'll have a look around. You do have the fitting for/on the inboard end of the boom, right? You just need the rest? I'll e-mail a couple of pic's to you, direct.

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[> [> Thanks Bob -- Gene MS, - Sunday - 05/11/03 - 10:15am (sdn-ap-005txhousP0297.dialsprint.net/63.185.105.43)

Fantastic !!!! The jpeg's are great.

Yes, I have the inboard fitting - just need something on the mast.

Thank you very much for your efforts.

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[> [> [> Re: Thanks Bob -- Bob Riggs, - Monday - 05/12/03 - 1:09pm (1Cust25.tnt1.port-townsend.wa.da.uu.net/67.250.16.25)

You're welcome, Gene.

I tried one source for the part, no good, one more to go. I'll get back to you. I looked at West Marine's offerings, didn't see anything close. Worst case scenario, the Wooden Boat Foundation, here in Port Townsend, has a foundry which could use mine to fashion a duplicate. It is likely to be a "pricey" way to go, and could take some time, but a possibility.

How crucial is this for you? Is it keeping you from getting out on the water? IOW, how soon do you need it?

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[> [> [> [> Why not build one out of Stainless? -- Speedy, - Monday - 05/12/03 - 6:41pm (buc064068.pac.army.mil/143.45.64.68)

A good welder could quickly fabricate one and it would be way cheaper than a bronze casting.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Why not build one out of Stainless? -- Bob Riggs, - Monday - 05/12/03 - 7:18pm (1Cust25.tnt1.port-townsend.wa.da.uu.net/67.250.16.25)

Speedy, I must agree. Gene, my second source bombed out. A replacement in stainless steel would be quicker, and less expensive. Get crackin' and get sailin'...

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