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Date Posted: 09:34:42 01/14/11 Fri
Author: Ned Depew
Subject: Re: Censored forum
In reply to: Anne Gorfinkle Schneider 's message, "Re: Censored forum" on 03:37:49 12/30/10 Thu

>Rena, not sure what you wrote about Bud Stillman, but
>I can only imagine! Sure, he was a great English
>teacher, but he was a dirty old man who took advantage
>of his female students. All it took was one ride in
>his VW Bug to know that he was a lecher. He didn't get
>an inch from me. His cigarette stained teeth that
>looked like they would fall out if he sneezed were
>revolting, as was he... but I knew several girls ( one
>in my class)who had affairs with him. Can't understand
>why he was never caught. Richardson had to have known.
>Shameful. Hope you don't delete this Ned. Anne
>Gorfinkle Schneider '64

Anne -

this went by a couple of years ago. I exchanged e-mails with Rena and told her that I didn't think this was the place to post unsubstantiated accusations against anyone - faculty, students or others.

I too heard rumors about Stillman's behavior, as well as the behavior of at least one other teacher, but rumors - even persistent rumors that are widely repeated - are different from established facts. Stillman is dead, and can't respond to such charges, so it seems unfair to post them, unless they come from a first-hand source.

I'm not removing your post because it's based on your own first-hand experience. I credit your report that: "All it took was one ride in his VW Bug to know that he was a lecher." as being true of your experience.

I'm less comfortable with your assertion that you "knew of several girls who had" - as opposed to "were rumored to be having" - "affairs with him." Second-hand testimony is difficult to accept in the case of charges as serious as these.

It's not unimaginable that a teen-aged female (or male) student might report a fantasy involvement with a teacher on whom she/he had a crush as "real," even to friends and classmates. It has happened. Of course, it's sadly also not unimaginable that a teacher might abuse the position of trust and authority to take emotional and sexual advantage of students. That has happened too.

Without incontrovertible first-hand testimony it doesn't seem fair to me to put such allegations in print, on the web. I'll leave yours for now, but I hope you'll consider and edit your post to remove allegations of which you don't have definitive, first-hand knowledge.

Meanwhile, good to hear from you! I remember you well. I hope the years have been good for you.



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[> [> Re: Censored forum -- Rena Blumberg, 20:26:00 06/07/12 Thu

Prep-School Predators
The Horace Mann School’s Secret History of Sexual Abuse
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