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Date Posted: 18:57:20 06/22/05 Wed
Author: Jennine Ross
Subject: amateur genealogist

I am the great-granddaughter of Howard P. Vanderlip, nephew of Frank A. and Narcissa C. Vanderlip. Until recently, I had no idea about this side of the family. My ggf died in 1988 and I was intrigued by the history of the school and it's origins. I wonder if anyone has any recollections of any family members encountered over the years and of the current state of the property, I can't seem to find much on current status of the Vanderlip's home, Beechwood, itself. Any info would be most appreciated. I hope there is enough interest to maintain your uniquely wonderful site.

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[> Re: amateur genealogist -- Todd Kasow '72, 12:45:43 06/25/05 Sat

Hi Jennine, and welcome.
I don't have any info about your grandparents but did see the old mansion a few years ago. The mansion itself was converted to condos. It seems very well taken care of and totally original. The geat front lawn is intact as are the Roman Gardens, although the gardens are not planted as they used to be. Considering the disrepair Beechwood mansion was in during the 80's, I personally feel grateful it wasn't torn down.
The soccer field is no longer, having had small 2 level condo's built there, but all the old trees along the road are still there and again, things could have been a lot worse. I have some pictures from about 3 years ago that i'll dig up and sendto you if I can find them.
Being one of the "train crowd", I spent everyday walking through the property and have many fond memories of the Roman Gardens in full bloom. I also remember two large St. Bernards (Suzy and Sally???) that would spot us from way across the great lawn and gallop towards us to deposit their great gobs of saliva.
Do you have any old pictures or stories you could share? We always heard there was a secret tunnel to the river....... and once we snuck into the house and found a large room filled with roman warrior miniatures on a giant table that had been built up into landscapes of Rome. I also fell in love with the room that had TWO concert grand pianos!
best
Todd

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[> [> Re: amateur genealogist -- Roy Lewis 1970-1973, 14:51:35 01/27/08 Sun

>Hi Jennine, and welcome.

I Too remmember that mansion by the soccerfield where the May poles would be set up , and sometimes there were these huge fans to blow the limbs of the trees and leaves when they would film episodes of "Dark Shadows".
We had a cooking class in the mansions kitchen It was an awesome place with beautiful copper cook ware dangling over a huge wooden prep table as I remember and there were two huge old gas ovens,
what adventure.
didnt those st, Bernards belong to coach Kelly(Mike Kellys' dad)I kinda remember them hanging around during soccer practise and greeting Mike.
Roy Lewis
> I don't have any info about your grandparents but
>did see the old mansion a few years ago. The mansion
>itself was converted to condos. It seems very well
>taken care of and totally original. The geat front
>lawn is intact as are the Roman Gardens, although the
>gardens are not planted as they used to be.
>Considering the disrepair Beechwood mansion was in
>during the 80's, I personally feel grateful it wasn't
>torn down.
> The soccer field is no longer, having had small 2
>level condo's built there, but all the old trees along
>the road are still there and again, things could have
>been a lot worse. I have some pictures from about 3
>years ago that i'll dig up and sendto you if I can
>find them.
> Being one of the "train crowd", I spent everyday
>walking through the property and have many fond
>memories of the Roman Gardens in full bloom. I also
>remember two large St. Bernards (Suzy and Sally???)
>that would spot us from way across the great lawn and
>gallop towards us to deposit their great gobs of
>saliva.
> Do you have any old pictures or stories you could
>share? We always heard there was a secret tunnel to
>the river....... and once we snuck into the house and
>found a large room filled with roman warrior
>miniatures on a giant table that had been built up
>into landscapes of Rome. I also fell in love with the
>room that had TWO concert grand pianos!
>best
>Todd

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[> The Schoales Family -- Ned Depew, 18:07:39 08/05/05 Fri

Anne Schoales, her sister Sarah and her late brother Dudley were all related to the Vanderlips and lived in a house on the property. Dudley was class of '61 I believe, and Anne '64 or '65 I know Sarah was older than Anne, and I think she was a year or two older than Dudley, but I may be wrong...

Anyway, Anne was living in Pound Ridge in the 1980s and hosted a reunion of about 30-40 people from the 1963-1966 classes. I have her e-mail address as: ackma@aol.com - but I e-mailed her once or twice in the last couple of years and got no response (athough the mail didn't bounce). I haven't tried it lately. If you can locate her, she should be a good source of information about her branch of the family.

Let me know how you fare. I'd love to post more about the Vanderlips - especially Narcissa (I wish I'd known that was her name!), who was quite a rebel girl in her day, a suffragette and pal of Eleanor Roosevelt!

Cheers,

N

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[> [> Re: The Schoales Family -- Robert E. (Bob) Brown, 15:14:02 07/22/06 Sat

>Anne Schoales, her sister Sarah and her late brother
>Dudley were all related to the Vanderlips and lived in
>a house on the property. Dudley was class of '61 I
>believe, and Anne '64 or '65 I know Sarah was older
>than Anne, and I think she was a year or two older
>than Dudley, but I may be wrong...
>
>Anyway, Anne was living in Pound Ridge in the 1980s
>and hosted a reunion of about 30-40 people from the
>1963-1966 classes. I have her e-mail address as:
>ackma@aol.com - but I e-mailed her once or twice in
>the last couple of years and got no response (athough
>the mail didn't bounce). I haven't tried it lately. If
>you can locate her, she should be a good source of
>information about her branch of the family.
>
>Let me know how you fare. I'd love to post more about
>the Vanderlips - especially Narcissa (I wish I'd known
>that was her name!), who was quite a rebel girl in her
>day, a suffragette and pal of Eleanor Roosevelt!
>
>Cheers,
>
>N
I worked briefly for Magnalith Corporation, a small group headed by Sven Fougner of Garden City in 1971. Mr. Fougner had met Dudley Schoales while breeding pure bred dogs with Mrs. Vanderlip. Dudley had married Mrs. Vanderlip's daughter, who was very involved in the magazine business in the 1940's.

Mr. Schoales was funding the Fougner venture out of his pocket, so any new employees had to be approved. When I was interviewed in Dudley's office at Morgan Stanley, Dudley talked about his Yale education and the time he had spent working in a foundry afer college. He was very amiable and I liked him immediately. The venture came to a quick demise when Dudley's wife suddenly died and he lost interest when burdened with this misfortune.

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[> [> [> Re: The Schoales Family -- Karen Gold Ferrandi, 18:31:06 03/09/08 Sun

I attended nursery school with Dudley Schoales and later Anne and Sarah became closes friends of mine. Dudley was the oldest, would be about 65-66 if he had been with us today, and Annie the youngest. I left Scarborogh in 5th grade to attend public school in Tarrytown where we lived on an estate called Suncliff, formally belonging to Jay Gould before my family purchased it in the late 30s.

I returned to Scarborough in 1956 attended till my senior year (class of 1960)..
I have a plethora of fine memories of Scarbrough, having attended it for the better part of my complete education with just the 4 years of primary (2) And junior high (2)
absent from Scarborough.

I spent many a night at the Schoales residence being a good friend of Sarahs and Annie as well. I even remember when we had a terrible fire at the school and used the Vanderlip mansion for classes whilst the school was out of comission.

My recollection of those years is quite vivid, impressed on me always is "Manners Maketh Man" and I even have a great photo taken a good 20 years ago at the school under that great motto leading to the auditorium. It sits in a silver frame here amongst my many friends and family- a lasting tribute to my love for Scarbrough and how important all those years were to me.

Love to hear from you and anyone who feels the impact Scarbrough made on our lives.






>>Anne Schoales, her sister Sarah and her late brother
>>Dudley were all related to the Vanderlips and lived in
>>a house on the property. Dudley was class of '61 I
>>believe, and Anne '64 or '65 I know Sarah was older
>>than Anne, and I think she was a year or two older
>>than Dudley, but I may be wrong...
>>
>>Anyway, Anne was living in Pound Ridge in the 1980s
>>and hosted a reunion of about 30-40 people from the
>>1963-1966 classes. I have her e-mail address as:
>>ackma@aol.com - but I e-mailed her once or twice in
>>the last couple of years and got no response (athough
>>the mail didn't bounce). I haven't tried it lately. If
>>you can locate her, she should be a good source of
>>information about her branch of the family.
>>
>>Let me know how you fare. I'd love to post more about
>>the Vanderlips - especially Narcissa (I wish I'd known
>>that was her name!), who was quite a rebel girl in her
>>day, a suffragette and pal of Eleanor Roosevelt!
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>N
>I worked briefly for Magnalith Corporation, a small
>group headed by Sven Fougner of Garden City in 1971.
>Mr. Fougner had met Dudley Schoales while breeding
>pure bred dogs with Mrs. Vanderlip. Dudley had married
>Mrs. Vanderlip's daughter, who was very involved in
>the magazine business in the 1940's.
>
>Mr. Schoales was funding the Fougner venture out of
>his pocket, so any new employees had to be approved.
>When I was interviewed in Dudley's office at Morgan
>Stanley, Dudley talked about his Yale education and
>the time he had spent working in a foundry afer
>college. He was very amiable and I liked him
>immediately. The venture came to a quick demise when
>Dudley's wife suddenly died and he lost interest when
>burdened with this misfortune.

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[> Re: amateur genealogist -- van ridgway, 16:21:10 07/24/06 Mon

hello.
I see you have had no replies and while I can't help, I have asked a couple of friends to see if we can get you a name or two of a school historian.
Regards.
Van


>I am the great-granddaughter of Howard P. Vanderlip,
>nephew of Frank A. and Narcissa C. Vanderlip. Until
>recently, I had no idea about this side of the family.
>My ggf died in 1988 and I was intrigued by the history
>of the school and it's origins. I wonder if anyone has
>any recollections of any family members encountered
>over the years and of the current state of the
>property, I can't seem to find much on current status
>of the Vanderlip's home, Beechwood, itself. Any info
>would be most appreciated. I hope there is enough
>interest to maintain your uniquely wonderful site.

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[> [> Re: amateur genealogist -- Clark W. Nicholls, 19:49:21 05/22/08 Thu

See the book "Phantoms of the Hudson Valley" by Monica Randall. A section on Beechwood, mentioning it was made into condominiums. Google search for beechwood vanderlip reveals:
Save the Date…The 20th Annual Ossining Food Pantry Celebration will be held on Sunday, September 21 from 5 – 8 pm in the ballroom and gardens of Beechwood, the historic Vanderlip estate in Scarborough, NY, hosted by Mr. and Mrs. James Simmons. If you can give some time to help make the 20th Celebration a big success, please contact Karin Chaudauri, 2008’s Celebration Chair, at 914-373-1048 to volunteer. All are welcome. We hope to see you there!


>hello.
>I see you have had no replies and while I can't help,
>I have asked a couple of friends to see if we can get
>you a name or two of a school historian.
>Regards.
>Van
>
>
>>I am the great-granddaughter of Howard P. Vanderlip,
>>nephew of Frank A. and Narcissa C. Vanderlip. Until
>>recently, I had no idea about this side of the family.
>>My ggf died in 1988 and I was intrigued by the history
>>of the school and it's origins. I wonder if anyone has
>>any recollections of any family members encountered
>>over the years and of the current state of the
>>property, I can't seem to find much on current status
>>of the Vanderlip's home, Beechwood, itself. Any info
>>would be most appreciated. I hope there is enough
>>interest to maintain your uniquely wonderful site.

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[> [> [> Re: amateur genealogist -- Clark W. Nicholls, 19:54:49 05/22/08 Thu

http://www.marycase.com/MyHomeDtl_Printable.asp?lstPages=&HomeID=663895

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[> Vanderlip home -- Alison Blank, 12:56:11 10/28/08 Tue

>Vanderlip is part of a complex of townhouses which were created on the lawn of the estate. The house itself was, I believe, carved into several residences.

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[> Re: amateur genealogist -- Alma Ippolito Walshak, 20:34:12 01/27/09 Tue

>I know that my brother was very involved with Scarborough and knew Mrs. schoales pretty well. i don't know if he can give you any info but you might try him..Dr Elio Ippolito of Sleepy Hollow, NY. I am vacationing right now in CA so I don't have his phone # but am sure it is listed.

Iam the great-granddaughter of Howard P. Vanderlip,
>nephew of Frank A. and Narcissa C. Vanderlip. Until
>recently, I had no idea about this side of the family.
>My ggf died in 1988 and I was intrigued by the history
>of the school and it's origins. I wonder if anyone has
>any recollections of any family members encountered
>over the years and of the current state of the
>property, I can't seem to find much on current status
>of the Vanderlip's home, Beechwood, itself. Any info
>would be most appreciated. I hope there is enough
>interest to maintain your uniquely wonderful site.

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[> [> Re: amateur genealogist -- J.P. Smith, 06:25:26 02/11/09 Wed

I taught Elio's daughter and served on the board of trustees (when I'd come back to teach at SS) when he was president of the board. I believe he's affiliated with Phelps Hospital in Sleepy Hollow.



>>I know that my brother was very involved with
>Scarborough and knew Mrs. schoales pretty well. i
>don't know if he can give you any info but you might
>try him..Dr Elio Ippolito of Sleepy Hollow, NY. I am
>vacationing right now in CA so I don't have his phone
># but am sure it is listed.
>
>Iam the great-granddaughter of Howard P. Vanderlip,
>>nephew of Frank A. and Narcissa C. Vanderlip. Until
>>recently, I had no idea about this side of the family.
>>My ggf died in 1988 and I was intrigued by the history
>>of the school and it's origins. I wonder if anyone has
>>any recollections of any family members encountered
>>over the years and of the current state of the
>>property, I can't seem to find much on current status
>>of the Vanderlip's home, Beechwood, itself. Any info
>>would be most appreciated. I hope there is enough
>>interest to maintain your uniquely wonderful site.

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