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Larry (If you haven't raised the dead, don't slam him..)
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Date Posted: 00:32:24 10/16/06 Mon
In reply to: Wally Duncaster 's message, ""One hundred million souls for Christ”" on 11:12:34 04/15/03 Tue

>"One hundred million souls for Christ”
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>Mark 4:22 "For there is nothing hidden which will not
>be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but
>that it should come to light.
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>Evangelist Rodney Howard Browne is saying that the
>devil killed his daughter because he was going to win
>100 million souls for Jesus. Also Rodney got all the
>top Pentecostal preachers to pray for his daughter and
>nothing happened. So how can Rodney win a 100 million
>souls from Jesus when he cannot even raise his
>daughter from the dead? He cannot! He is nothing but a
>lying son of hell! What do you want from a classical
>Pentecostal demon? (Matthew 16:23) Not integrity or
>truthfulness but lies and deceivement!
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>Gil & Loraine Howard-Browne are moving to Tampa this
>March to help Evangelist Rodney Howard- Browne win
>"One hundred million souls for Christ over the next 10
>years?" Considering the Howard-Brownes are
>naturalized Americans who don't belong to ECFA and are
>accountable to no one but themselves, this is a very
>stupid and impossible vision especially considering
>that there have never been one hundred million souls
>won for Jesus in a period of ten years through out
>earth's history. They are nothing but liars, thieves
>and con-artists- Wally Duncaster
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> We pray God's richest blessings on you as you spend
>the next few minutes browsing our web site.
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>From Gil Howard-Browne Welcome and God Bless you.
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>We apologize. Our web site was hacked a few days ago
>and some extremely bad language was in the place of
>this page. As vile as that is, we also realize
>that the hacker desperately needs Jesus in his life.
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>This man/woman is a reflection of what is going on in
>the world and it underscores the great urgency for the
>Church to respond to the call of God "Who will go for
>me" The answer should be "here am I Lord, send me."
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>Loraine and I have heard the call of God to make a
>huge change in our lives. My brother Rodney
>Howard-Browne has asked us to come and help him with
>the vision God has given him. "One hundred million
>souls for Christ over the next 10 years"
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>As much as we have loved the past 12 years, we must
>lay aside our own vision and join something bigger.
>Our heart has been for the small to medium church.
>Over the past 10 years, we have done approximately
>2,900 meetings in about 32 US states and in countries
>around the world. We have driven about 235,000
>revival miles in the USA alone.
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>We leave behind many wonderful memories of great
>revival meetings to press on to what God has for us.
>It is huge and we are extremely excited. We are
>moving to Tampa in the middle of March.
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>http://www.revivaltimes.com/
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>http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/rodney.htm
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>Rodney Howard-Brown & Friends
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>“It was the pastors job to fleece the sheep” RHB
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>"One hundred million souls for Christ” GHB
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>By John Davies
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>Few had heard of Rodney Howard-Browne before he led a
>series of revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida in
>1993. A lot has happened since then; some of it is
>commendable, and some of it is reprehensible. In
>theory Browne came to America from South Africa to
>"revive" a largely sleeping church. He quickly got
>labeled as a Holy Ghost "bartender" because of the
>manifestations of "holy laughter" dominating his
>ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it
>was the pastors job to fleece the sheep but only God
>was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also
>taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded,
>not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to
>do! He also taught that it was more important to give
>than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving
>offerings that he spent on himself and family members.
>Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend
>Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church,
>Lakeland, Florida where Rodney became an instant
>success for the bible stated:
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>1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own,
>and especially for those of his household, he has
>denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
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>A first-hand Account, Accurately Reported by Yves A.
>Brault.
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>I saw him in Florida as he was a guest-speaker at the
>Orlando Christian Center. I also attended his services
>in British Columbia, where he held a series of
>meetings from Nov. 19 through 23, 1996, in a popular
>charismatic church of Vancouver.
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>More than once in this 2,000-seat church auditorium, a
>member of his organization advised us to be careful at
>the altar and not step on those lying on the carpeted
>floor because "even if they are under the power of the
>Holy Ghost, they still feel pain!" Howard-Browne
>played a very active human role in the laughter
>manifestation. He joked again and again, "I'll read
>from The Amplified Bible, so if it comes out loud,
>it's because it's amplified." Himself a Caucasian,
>born and raised in Africa, now living in America, he
>came to this conclusion, "That makes me an
>African-American!" At the time of the offering he
>suggested, besides cash and check giving, "You can use
>your credit card: MasterCard, Visa, American
>Distress." The crowd was ecstatic.
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>Adonica - his wife - also made a brief appearance on
>the stage. At the very first meeting she was asked to
>greet the audience. Estimating that the crowd's
>response lacked enthusiasm, she said, "Are you just
>shy Canadians, or what? Are you just as the
>Americans?" A remark that lacked some tact! The Holy
>Ghost "bartender" seemed to believe that he needs to
>instruct people on laughing and behavior. He even
>defied those who would not respond according to his
>expectations.
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>It came close to threatening when he accused the more
>conservative people by saying, "We'll cast the
>religious devil out of you." He did not miss an
>opportunity to put his critics down, "Some people have
>got more faith in believing the devil can come into
>this place tonight to touch people. How dumb can you
>get and still breathe!" Referring to North American
>theologians, which he named dead heads, he said,
>"Bunch of whitewash, full of dead bones, like a
>constipated mule." Americans and Canadians, in
>particular, did not weigh much in his eyes. I don't
>know if his attitude has changed, but he said, "Jesus
>is alive. It's only North Americans that don't believe
>that."
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>The fact remains that multi-million dollars Family run
>Evangelistic Ministries in America be it the Hinn's of
>Orlando, the Straders of Lakeland, the Howard-Browne's
>of Tampa, the Falwells of Lynchburg, the Brights of
>Orlando, the Robertson's of Norkfolk, the Roberts of
>Tulsa, the Copelands of Forth Worth, and the Graham's
>of Minneapolis are notorious for hiding their total
>salaries and those of their family members and special
>friends in their indirect personally owned non- profit
>religious corporation while they live in palatial
>palaces like kings and royalty.
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>Just like with the Bakker's of PTL Club fame personal
>misconduct, mismanagement, and pillaging of the
>treasury and misuse of Ministry resources are quite
>common. Benny Hinn had to flee from Orlando Florida,
>when the media started to dig into the different
>scandals in his ministry. The Straders of Lakeland,
>personal friends of the Jim Bakker, Benny Hinn, Oral
>and Richard Roberts and Rodney Howard-Browne, went
>through a major split of Carpenter's Home Church in
>1989 when the Straders refused to relinquish the
>financial control they had on the ministry, the church
>and its assets.
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>Unlike Jesus Christ who owned nothing, Televangelists
>Jan and Paul Crouch who lost their tax exemption for
>their Trinity Broadcasting Network are definitely not
>lacking in any material possession. Their home is
>described as "a palatial estate with ocean and city
>views and was purchased for around five million
>dollars. It has six bedrooms, nine bathrooms, a
>billiard room, a climate-controlled wine cellar, a
>sweeping staircase and a crystal chandelier. The
>three-story, nearly 9,500-square-foot house, has an
>elevator, also has a six-car garage, a tennis court
>and a pool with a fountain.
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>Trinity Broadcasting, established in 1973, has more
>than 768 TV stations on the air worldwide. The
>Crouches oversee a $100-million-plus-a-year
>enterprise. One of the Crouch estates is TBN's ranch
>in Colleyville, TX, just minutes away from the
>Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. The 80-plus
>acre ranch contains eight houses and horse stables, is
>estimated to be worth about $10 million.
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>Mind you President Clinton did and President Bush does
>release his total salary and his personal income tax
>to the public while Billy and Franklin Graham and
>their friends do not. But adulterous and lying Bill
>Clinton seems to have had more integrity and
>accountability than TV Evangelists do in this area?
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>It seems that all of these family run ministries see
>the dumb sheep as God sent to be fleeced for their own
>hidden agenda and growth of their personal kingdom of
>which they are kings and rule supreme and are not
>accountable to the public but only to God. But they
>collect their money from people and not God? And their
>tax exemption comes from the people and not God? So
>whom are they fooling? Not God and not the people!
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>Is it possible that they are really crooks who use the
>separation of Church and State to fleece the sheep as
>South African Evangelist Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne had
>said, it was their responsibility to fleece the sheep?
>For in a Howard Browne winter camp meeting in the USF
>Sun Dome in Tampa Florida attended by two CNT
>reporters, South African Pentecostal Evangelist Dr.
>Rodney Howard Browne taught pastors that "sheep needed
>to be fleeced or they would have too much hair and
>could not see where they are going. It was the
>pastor’s job to fleece the sheep."
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>Dr. Rodney Howard- Browne had been credited with
>bringing the laughter revival to America. But from
>what really happened in Carpenter's Home Church in
>1993 and 1994 and its devastating effect on the
>community including the robbing, raping and murdering
>of the sheep, was not much of a revival.
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>The leadership of the Assembly of God denomination
>both in Lakeland and Missouri also would not accept
>the testimony of one of its members Roy Aldrich that
>he was robbed and raped by money changers and wolves
>in sheep's clothing in Carpenter's Home Church during
>the so called "revival". But the State of Florida who
>cared about justice, righteousness and truth accepted
>the words and testimony of Roy Aldrich about the
>Straders.
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>The Florida State prosecutors proved their case and
>convinced the jurors that Dan Strader, the son of the
>senior pastor Karl Strader, devised an elaborate
>scheme to attract cash in the real-estate and mortgage
>investments. He was selling the securities without a
>license and that the securities were unregistered.
>This was done in an organized method amounting to
>Racketeer-Influence and Corrupt Organizations, or RICO
>Act.
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>Daniel, 37, was sentenced to 45 years in prison in
>August 1995. He was convicted of 238 felony counts for
>bilking 57 mostly elderly investors, some members of
>the church, out of $2.3 million by selling investments
>in properties that didn't exist or already had liens
>against them. Others who were involved along with Dan
>Strader were not pursed by the State of Florida as
>they felt that the conviction of Daniel Strader was a
>good example for others to take notice.
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>Dr Rodney Howard Browne used his influence and powers
>to raise money at Carpenter's Home Church to buy the
>senior pastor Karl Strader his much needed second
>Lincoln Town Car. But when Rodney was requested to use
>his influence and power to raise money for the
>unfortunate elderly victims of Dan's Strader, he
>refused.
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>It is to be noted that Howard-Browne's standard
>biography claims he once served as an associate pastor
>at Rhema. But according to Rhema church officials
>contacted, Howard-Browne was never an associate
>pastor-nor did he ever hold any pastoral credentials
>or responsibilities. Said Kelmeyer: "Rodney was never
>an associate pastor here. He was an ordained minister
>by the state and a lecturer at our Bible school, but
>was not involved in any form of pastoral work."
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>Howard-Browne also claimed a "doctorate of ministry
>degree" from an obscure San Jacinto, California
>correspondence institution called "The School of Bible
>Theology." A state Department of Education employee
>contacted likened the tiny school, which bills itself
>as "The Seminary to the World" and has no faculty, to
>a "diploma mill."
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>While most doctorate degrees are earned through
>serious study at through hard work at a credited
>University, Life Christian University of Tampa,
>another diploma mill now related to Dr. Rodney, gives
>out honorary degrees to prominent Charismatic
>Christians based on stupidity and has stated:
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>"Many full-time ministers continue their education to
>the doctoral level through our Distance Learning
>program. These doctoral programs can include work in
>which the minister is currently involved and advanced
>standing is awarded for published works. Our
>illustrious alumni include such
>internationally-prominent ministers as:
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>Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne
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>Doctor of Divinity
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>Doctor of Theology
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>Dr. Joyce Meyer
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>Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
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>Dr. Kenneth Copeland
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>Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
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>Dr. Norvel Hayes
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>Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
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>Dr. Mike Francen
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>Doctor of Philosophy in Missionary Evangelism
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>Dr. Dick Mills
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>Doctor of Sacred Theology
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>Dr. Benny Hinn
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>Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
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>Dr. Kevin McNulty
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>Doctor of Missiology in Missionary Evangelism
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>So why are prominent Evangelical leaders in America so
>dishonest about Doctorate degrees and are hiding their
>total personal salaries? Are they ashamed that they
>earn so much or not enough? Or are they Crooks and
>Liars? Mind you the latter is more plausible for
>Evangelical Leaders in America, be they Billy or
>Franklin, Graham, Bill Bright, Pat Robertson, Rodney
>Howard-Browne, Benny Hinn, Jerry Falwell or others,
>have no integrity whatsoever; especially when it comes
>to their own personal salaries and those of their
>special friends.
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>http://www.msnbc.com/news/845747.asp
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>http://www.tv.cbc.ca/witness/faitha/faithsyn.htm
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>http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/hinn.htm
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>Liars, Deceivers and Itching Ears!
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>I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus
>Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His
>appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready
>in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort,
>with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will
>come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but
>according to their own desires, because they have
>itching ears, they will heap up for themselves
>teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the
>truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Timothy 4:1-4
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>A particular lie has been rehearsed in the mind of the
>person so much that it has replaced the truth. There
>is a well-known phrase which states, "If you tell a
>lie often enough, it becomes the truth." There remains
>no discernible difference between truth and deception
>in the mind of this kind of person.
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>As Thomas Jefferson once stated, "He who permits
>himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do
>it a second and third time, till at length it becomes
>habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and
>truths without the world's believing him. This
>falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart,
>and in time depraves all its good dispositions."
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>Why are you so adept at lying? What is responsible for
>your unique behavior? The answer can be found when you
>examine the character of the author of lies and his
>false "angels of light."
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>The Father of Lies
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>As Jesus spoke to the Pharisees on the Mount of
>Olives, He could be speaking to the religious cultists
>of our time. "Ye are of your father the devil, and the
>lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer
>from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
>because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a
>lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the
>father of it." John 8:44
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>Satan is completely destitute of the truth. Though he
>has great knowledge of the truth, he has no affection
>for it. His interest in this world is supported by
>lies and falsehoods. When he propagates a plan, you
>can be certain that it will be against the will of
>God. All his proofs are lying wonders, and his
>temptations are meant to destroy the soul. It is only
>natural that his children should have the same
>attributes.
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>"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
>transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
>And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into
>an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if
>his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of
>righteousness; whose end shall be according to their
>works."
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>A good explanation of 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 is given
>by Matthew Henry:
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>"The false apostles are charged as deceitful workers
>(v. 13), and that upon this account, because they
>would transform themselves into the likeness of the
>apostles of Christ, and, though they were the
>ministers of Satan, would seem to be the ministers of
>righteousness. They would be as industrious and as
>generous in promoting error as the apostles were in
>preaching truth; they would endeavour as much to
>undermine the kingdom of Christ as the apostles did to
>establish it.
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>"There were counterfeit prophets under the Old
>Testament, who wore the garb and learned the language
>of the prophets of the Lord. So there were counterfeit
>apostles under the New Testament, who seemed in many
>respects like the true apostles of Christ. And no
>marvel (says the apostle); hypocrisy is a thing not to
>be much wondered at in this world, especially when we
>consider the great influence Satan has upon the minds
>of many, who rules in the hearts of the children of
>disobedience.
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>"As he can turn himself into any shape, and put on
>almost any form, and look sometimes like an angel of
>light, in order to promote his kingdom of darkness, so
>he will teach his ministers and instruments to do the
>same. But it follows, their end is according to their
>works (v. 15); the end will discover them to be
>deceitful workers, and their work will end in ruin and
>destruction."
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>Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits
>them all.
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>(Oliver Wendell Holmes)
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>Larry Hall
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>Sword of the Spirit Apologetics
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>http://www.luciferlink.org
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>deadline101@juno.com

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