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Date Posted: Sun, February 16 2003, 8:28:27
Author: Peter van der Hoog
Subject: Re: Which details do you mean, Rita?
In reply to: Margaret 's message, "Re: Which details do you mean, Rita?" on Fri, February 14 2003, 13:07:40

Which details? First of all, very strange relation between Regina and Paul Nemenyi. It seems they never lived together.

What so strange about that? It’s not very exceptional to have a relationship and not live together. The Immigration authorities barred Hans-Gerhardt Fischer from entering the U.S.A. That must have been a difficult situation for Regina.

Secondly, the features of Fischer's face are very typical for a half-breed and not for a Jew.

That’s maybe a stronger argument but I’m not an expert. I even don’t see anything Jewish in Fischer’s appearance. That reminds me of something else. At a certain time there were rumours that Kasparov’s mother was Jewish. I don't know if it's true but it shows how important it is to claim a chess world champion to your own group.

Thirdly, it is very strange that Regina hid the truth about Paul Nemenyi even from her children (at least until 1970s). It was not in her character.

Just imagine the situation: A mother alone and she tells everybody: My husband is not allowed to enter the USA. That’s a simple clear-cut story and people like clear-cut stories. But now Regina gets a relation with Paul Nemenyi and she even gets pregnant. Apart from marrying Paul Nemenyi the easiest solution is to stick to the simple story: My husband is not allowed to enter the USA.

Forthly, I've never heard that Zurich is located in Poland.

Could you please explain why that is relevant?

Because this colourful but fictitious description from there is hard to forget:
In 1960, she moved out, leaving her teenage son alone in a Brooklyn apartment that soon
grew filthy - clogged tubs, roaches, dirty dishes.

When you are busy with chess doing the dishes is an insult. I remember Jan Timman (he is also born in 1951, like Karpov and me!) in 1968 on the Dutch television. His room was even dirtier then mine.

As for interpretation Regina's departure as 'a relief', I heard another side of the story: 'a blow', 'an orphan with still alive parents'.

Exactly! That’s an interpretation from some journalist. So what? We have to make up our own miind and for me, based on everything I know, it's more then likely that Nemenyi is Fischer's father.

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Re: Which details do you mean, Rita? -- Margaret, Sun, February 16 2003, 13:52:49
Read this one, the previous message wasn't posted completely -- Margaret, Sun, February 16 2003, 14:08:37
- Mixing up a goat with a sheep. -- Peter van der Hoog, Sun, February 16 2003, 17:50:43
  - Family reunion, you know! -- Todd, Mon, February 17 2003, 4:14:57
    - Crooked nail -- Peter van der Hoog, Mon, February 17 2003, 7:27:29
      - Re: Crooked nail -- Todd, Mon, February 17 2003, 10:20:17
      - Some more crooked nails -- Todd, Tue, February 18 2003, 9:41:28
        Inaccuracy, but.... -- Margaret, Tue, February 18 2003, 15:25:14
        Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 3:39:04
        Re: Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, February 19 2003, 8:15:56
        It were the same journalists of the same newspaper! -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 9:09:30
        OK, they are -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, February 19 2003, 17:57:21
        Believe or not believe, that is the question -- Katerina, Thu, February 20 2003, 3:23:06
        Contact Peter Nicholas? Yes, I think about it! -- Todd, Thu, February 20 2003, 6:31:40
        Re: Contact Peter Nicholas? Yes, I think about it! -- Peter van der Hoog, Thu, February 20 2003, 16:45:13
        You taught me to be a bore, Peter! -- Todd, Fri, February 21 2003, 4:25:44
        Don't flatter me, Todd! -- Peter van der Hoog, Fri, February 21 2003, 5:02:14
        Re: Don't flatter me, Todd! -- Todd, Fri, February 21 2003, 5:57:22
        No special questions -- Margaret, Fri, February 21 2003, 14:41:19
        Three versions -- Todd, Sat, February 22 2003, 7:32:21
        The first or the second ones -- Margaret, Sun, February 23 2003, 13:39:14
        A dictionary for reading between the lines -- Margaret, Thu, February 20 2003, 21:41:48
        Did not you read the original of the first article? -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 9:50:08
        Re: Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Margaret, Wed, February 19 2003, 14:30:05
  - Re: Mixing up a goat with a sheep. -- Margaret, Mon, February 17 2003, 14:04:14
    - Do you like to eat in a mash? -- Peter van der Hoog, Tue, February 18 2003, 19:11:34
      - Re: Do you like to eat in a mash? -- Margaret, Wed, February 19 2003, 13:35:53
Peter, is that yer room? -- Todd, Thu, January 29 2004, 6:05:02

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>Which details? First of all, very >strange relation between Regina and Paul Nemenyi. It >seems they never lived together. > >What so strange about that? It’s not very exceptional >to have a relationship and not live together. The >Immigration authorities barred Hans-Gerhardt Fischer >from entering the U.S.A. That must have been a >difficult situation for Regina. > >Secondly, the features of Fischer's >face are very typical for a half-breed and not for a >Jew. > >That’s maybe a stronger argument but I’m not an >expert. I even don’t see anything Jewish in >Fischer’s appearance. That reminds me of something >else. At a certain time there were rumours that >Kasparov’s mother was Jewish. I don't know if it's >true but it shows how important it is to claim a chess >world champion to your own group. > >Thirdly, it is very strange that >Regina hid the truth about Paul Nemenyi even from her >children (at least until 1970s). It was not in her >character. > >Just imagine the situation: A mother alone and she >tells everybody: My husband is not allowed to enter >the USA. That’s a simple clear-cut story and people >like clear-cut stories. But now Regina gets a relation >with Paul Nemenyi and she even gets pregnant. Apart >from marrying Paul Nemenyi the easiest solution is to >stick to the simple story: My husband is not allowed >to enter the USA. > >Forthly, I've never heard that >Zurich is located in Poland. > >Could you please explain why that is relevant? > >Because this colourful but >fictitious description from there is hard to forget: >In 1960, she moved out, leaving her teenage son alone >in a Brooklyn apartment that soon >grew filthy - clogged tubs, roaches, dirty >dishes. > >When you are busy with chess doing the dishes is an >insult. I remember Jan Timman (he is also born in >1951, like Karpov and me!) in 1968 on the Dutch >television. His room was even dirtier then mine. > >As for interpretation Regina's >departure as 'a relief', I heard another side of the >story: 'a blow', 'an orphan with still alive >parents'. > >Exactly! That’s an interpretation from some >journalist. So what? We have to make up our own miind >and for me, based on everything I know, it's more then >likely that Nemenyi is Fischer's father.
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