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Date Posted: Sun, February 16 2003, 14:08:37
Author: Margaret
Subject: Read this one, the previous message wasn't posted completely
In reply to: Peter van der Hoog 's message, "Re: Which details do you mean, Rita?" on Sun, February 16 2003, 8:28:27

>What so strange about that? It’s not very exceptional
>to have a relationship and not live together.

You’re mixing up two different situations here: a guest marriage or a partnership, when a couple
meets each other regularly and a pregnant woman left alone by the father of her future child
when there is no partnership at all. Living in a guest marriage you ain't lonely! You have a nice,
romantic relationship, free from everyday cares, each date is a holiday. But this sort of relation
doesn’t fit to a family with children, when the woman needs all the help and moral support,
especially on her last months of pregnancy and when her child is just born.

The
>Immigration authorities barred Hans-Gerhardt Fischer
>from entering the U.S.A. That must have been a
>difficult situation for Regina.

Sorry, but this fact is clearly false. Regina was an American citizen and she and
Gerhardt were officially married. The emigration authorities can't have barred him from entering
the USA, because a wedded spouse of an American citizen automatically gets the right to live in
the USA as a family member. Moreover, such a person can be naturalized after 3 years of staying
in the USA while an ordinary emigrant is allowed to get American citizenship only after 5 years.

>That’s maybe a stronger argument but I’m not an
>expert. I even don’t see anything Jewish in
>Fischer’s appearance.

It is because you ain't an expert. :-)

That reminds me of something
>else. At a certain time there were rumours that
>Kasparov’s mother was Jewish. I don't know if it's
>true but it shows how important it is to claim a chess
>world champion to your own group.

Not true. Gazza's background is quite clear: Clara Kasparova, the Armenian mom and Kim
Weinstein, the Jewish dad. Clara's features are very typical for her race.

>Just imagine the situation: A mother alone and she
>tells everybody: My husband is not allowed to enter
>the USA. That’s a simple clear-cut story and people
>like clear-cut stories.

Not real. See my comment above.

But now Regina gets a relation
>with Paul Nemenyi and she even gets pregnant. Apart
>from marrying Paul Nemenyi the easiest solution is to
>stick to the simple story: My husband is not allowed
>to enter the USA.

But the simple story was that her husband had left the USA when his son was two and escaped
from paying the alimony.

>Could you please explain why that is relevant?

Just interesting. The authors called Jack(Jankel) Wender a Polish dress-cutter while his
daughter was born in Zurich. Hence Zurich must be a Polish city.

>When you are busy with chess doing the dishes is an
>insult.

And when you're busy with maths, physics, chemistry, history, languages? Well, during family
quarrels my granny always remembered the period when my dad had to live at home alone for
some time working at his thesis and how he put all the dirty plates and saucepans in the fridge
not to wash them.

But think yourself, Peter: when somebody never eats at home (and never cooks), from where can
he get dirty dishes? My only guess is that Fischer fetched them from the restaurants he visited.

I remember Jan Timman (he is also born in
>1951, like Karpov and me!) in 1968 on the Dutch
>television. His room was even dirtier then mine.

Feel the difference, please: You saw Timman's room on TV with your own eyes. My granny saw
those plates and saucepans in the fridge with her own eyes (maybe me too, but I don't remember
because I was only three years old at the time). Darrach can't have seen Fischers’ apartment in
1960 because he met Fischer in 1971. So his description is not real.

>We have to make up our own miind
>and for me, based on everything I know, it's more then
>likely that Nemenyi is Fischer's father.

Yeah, according to the article, that is true. But what to do with all these unclear details?

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Mixing up a goat with a sheep. -- Peter van der Hoog, Sun, February 16 2003, 17:50:43
- Family reunion, you know! -- Todd, Mon, February 17 2003, 4:14:57
  - Crooked nail -- Peter van der Hoog, Mon, February 17 2003, 7:27:29
    - Re: Crooked nail -- Todd, Mon, February 17 2003, 10:20:17
    - Some more crooked nails -- Todd, Tue, February 18 2003, 9:41:28
      - Inaccuracy, but.... -- Margaret, Tue, February 18 2003, 15:25:14
        Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 3:39:04
        Re: Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, February 19 2003, 8:15:56
        It were the same journalists of the same newspaper! -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 9:09:30
        OK, they are -- Peter van der Hoog, Wed, February 19 2003, 17:57:21
        Believe or not believe, that is the question -- Katerina, Thu, February 20 2003, 3:23:06
        Contact Peter Nicholas? Yes, I think about it! -- Todd, Thu, February 20 2003, 6:31:40
        Re: Contact Peter Nicholas? Yes, I think about it! -- Peter van der Hoog, Thu, February 20 2003, 16:45:13
        You taught me to be a bore, Peter! -- Todd, Fri, February 21 2003, 4:25:44
        Don't flatter me, Todd! -- Peter van der Hoog, Fri, February 21 2003, 5:02:14
        Re: Don't flatter me, Todd! -- Todd, Fri, February 21 2003, 5:57:22
        No special questions -- Margaret, Fri, February 21 2003, 14:41:19
        Three versions -- Todd, Sat, February 22 2003, 7:32:21
        The first or the second ones -- Margaret, Sun, February 23 2003, 13:39:14
        A dictionary for reading between the lines -- Margaret, Thu, February 20 2003, 21:41:48
        Did not you read the original of the first article? -- Todd, Wed, February 19 2003, 9:50:08
        Re: Inaccuracy or juggling? -- Margaret, Wed, February 19 2003, 14:30:05
- Re: Mixing up a goat with a sheep. -- Margaret, Mon, February 17 2003, 14:04:14
  - Do you like to eat in a mash? -- Peter van der Hoog, Tue, February 18 2003, 19:11:34
    - Re: Do you like to eat in a mash? -- Margaret, Wed, February 19 2003, 13:35:53

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>>What so strange about that? It’s not very exceptional >>to have a relationship and not live together. > >You’re mixing up two different situations here: a >guest marriage or a partnership, when a couple >meets each other regularly and a pregnant woman left >alone by the father of her future child >when there is no partnership at all. Living in a guest >marriage you ain't lonely! You have a nice, >romantic relationship, free from everyday cares, each >date is a holiday. But this sort of relation >doesn’t fit to a family with children, when the woman >needs all the help and moral support, >especially on her last months of pregnancy and when >her child is just born. > >The >>Immigration authorities barred Hans-Gerhardt Fischer >>from entering the U.S.A. That must have been a >>difficult situation for Regina. > >Sorry, but this fact is clearly false. Regina >was an American citizen and she and >Gerhardt were officially married. The emigration >authorities can't have barred him from entering >the USA, because a wedded spouse of an American >citizen automatically gets the right to live in >the USA as a family member. Moreover, such a person >can be naturalized after 3 years of staying >in the USA while an ordinary emigrant is allowed to >get American citizenship only after 5 years. > > >>That’s maybe a stronger argument but I’m not an >>expert. I even don’t see anything Jewish in >>Fischer’s appearance. > >It is because you ain't an expert. :-) > > That reminds me of something >>else. At a certain time there were rumours that >>Kasparov’s mother was Jewish. I don't know if it's >>true but it shows how important it is to claim a chess >>world champion to your own group. > >Not true. Gazza's background is quite clear: Clara >Kasparova, the Armenian mom and Kim >Weinstein, the Jewish dad. Clara's features are very >typical for her race. > >>Just imagine the situation: A mother alone and she >>tells everybody: My husband is not allowed to enter >>the USA. That’s a simple clear-cut story and people >>like clear-cut stories. > >Not real. See my comment above. > >But now Regina gets a relation >>with Paul Nemenyi and she even gets pregnant. Apart >>from marrying Paul Nemenyi the easiest solution is to >>stick to the simple story: My husband is not allowed >>to enter the USA. > >But the simple story was that her husband had left the >USA when his son was two and escaped >from paying the alimony. > >>Could you please explain why that is relevant? > >Just interesting. The authors called Jack(Jankel) >Wender a Polish dress-cutter while his >daughter was born in Zurich. Hence Zurich must be a >Polish city. > >>When you are busy with chess doing the dishes is an >>insult. > >And when you're busy with maths, physics, chemistry, >history, languages? Well, during family >quarrels my granny always remembered the period when >my dad had to live at home alone for >some time working at his thesis and how he put all the >dirty plates and saucepans in the fridge >not to wash them. > >But think yourself, Peter: when somebody never eats at >home (and never cooks), from where can >he get dirty dishes? My only guess is that Fischer >fetched them from the restaurants he visited. > >I remember Jan Timman (he is also born in >>1951, like Karpov and me!) in 1968 on the Dutch >>television. His room was even dirtier then mine. > >Feel the difference, please: You saw Timman's room on >TV with your own eyes. My granny saw >those plates and saucepans in the fridge with her own >eyes (maybe me too, but I don't remember >because I was only three years old at the time). >Darrach can't have seen Fischers’ apartment in >1960 because he met Fischer in 1971. So his >description is not real. > >>We have to make up our own miind >>and for me, based on everything I know, it's more then >>likely that Nemenyi is Fischer's father. > >Yeah, according to the article, that is true. But what >to do with all these unclear details?
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