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> >> >>sorry to hear that raven. >>clearly your circle of friends am not familiar with, >>and have NO understanding about people that you are >>speaking about. > >I wasn't talking about my circle of friends and >acquaintances. I was talking about people here who act >like so many government and other such people. > > >>As for justifying what these people you speak of >>do.... you will have to ask the people you are >>talking about, to justify themselves to you.... why >>are you asking me to justify something people you know >>do? > >I WAS talking about you and others like you at voy, >not about people in my real environment. >> > > >>"Ah yes, based on how I've been treated here, I can >>see that Aspies aren't really autistics and therefore >>aren't welcome here" >> >> >>WHAT are you talking about? (again) > >Take a look at the way the entire discussion went ... >where all sides of the petition issue were asked to be >considered rather than just going on one side of the >problem. You know exactly what I'm talking about >insofar as supporting michelle dawson's petition (with >a very short deadline btw) and then having people on >this forum accuse me of being a shill for the ASO >because I believe that ALL sides of a situation must >be weighed and considered before doing something as >damaging as that petition was threatening. > >Having a non-verbal autistic pitied at a public >meeting really isn't the best way to get points >across. Were there any verbal autistics being put on >display for pity purposes at any of the meetings >michelle refers to? No. So why do the pity party for >one segment of the spectrum unless pity is what a >person is hoping to establish. > >And because I dared to comment thusly, I was told I >had no understanding whatsoever of autistics. Ah! so >because I'm an Aspie I'm obviously (based on the >accusation) not a "real" autistic. OK. I get the >drift here and I'm sure you do, too. >> >>there are MANY aspies here (me included -depending on >>which doctors dx you go with), and have NOT seen >>anyone being UN-welcome here.... except for those >>persons >>(wether aspie, autie, neuro-socials, adhd, >>what-ever-end-of-or-off-spectrum one falls on) >>who choose to be mean to others, or come around here >>pretending they are someone they arent > >Not so. Posters accused me of not being what I am >without knowing who I am. That most definitely is a >fact. Just read some of the previous posts containing >such comments. So your comments are misleading at >best. > > >> >>So, IF you think: >> >>1) you are unwelcome here, then clearly your thoughts >>arise from your own insecurity and are not a result of >>what people here have told you. > >Not so. Read my previous comment in this post. It >has nothing to do with anything other than the >treatment received here with regard to the michelle >dawson petition. >> >>2) that aspies are unwelcome here, then it also is >>false, because there are lots of aspies that come to >>this board.... > >However Aspies who dare to comment on the fairness and >responsibility of not reacting in a kneejerk fashion >to a situation which they know only one side of are >unwelcome. Just read the posts where I was told I >didn't understand autistics, etc. Oh, this is getting >old. > >You don't want to believe that someone else could >possibly NOT side with michelle dawson UNLESS they >were part of the ASO or a shill for them. How >welcoming is THAT? >> > >>In that case, it is you that has a narrow mind. >>it is you that has chosen to not accept that fact that >>some people (me included) think differently then you, >>and we ahve the right to voice our opinion (as you >>have). > >Well then if that's the case, then you're right. I >would never dare to accuse you of lying about your >autism but fellow posters here have no problem >whatsoever with making that accusation towards me. >When I voiced my opinion I was accused of being a >board member of the ASO. So that narrowmindedness >started with posters here who didn't like that another >point of view re: michelle dawson's petition, was >being presented. >> >>IF you have trouble with this idea (that others can >>have different points of view then you and that does >>not mean that we are attacking you as a person, or >>even your perspective), then it is an area you can >>seek some support around... perhaps you have friends >>(but i would suggest you dont choose those autistics >>that you first mentioned), family, doctor, someone can >>help you with this. > >The autistics in question are some of the autistics >here, lg. Or should I play your game and say "alleged >autistics here"? No I won't because I don't play the >same game some posters here do. > >And once and for all get it through your head ... my >circle of influence accepts Aspies as being part of >the spectrum. They don't go around accusing me of NOT >being what I am or accusing me of being a boardmember >of a society or organization because I can see the >fairness and responsibility in considering ALL aspects >of a situation before endangering other people. > > >> >>would strongly advice you to read cheryls response to >>you. >>she speaks the truth. > >I would strongly advise that your fellow posters who >think that falsely accusing people just because >they're PO'd should take a look at their actions. > >As for strongly advising me of anything ... when you >can read my posts and see them as they are, then I may >consider some of your "advising" and "advice". Until >then, you cannot advise on what you do not understand. > > >> >>lg
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