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Subject: Buying new pipes. Which ones?


Author:
Matthew
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Date Posted: 19:40:45 05/21/03 Wed

I need a new set! Mc Callum, Dunbar, Shepard, Gibson.??
Which way do I go???

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[> Subject: Re: Buying new pipes. Which ones?


Author:
john mitchell
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Date Posted: 14:20:27 05/22/03 Thu

>I need a new set! Mc Callum, Dunbar, Shepard,
>Gibson.??
>Which way do I go???

Are you going to buy a set based on an internet posting?

Go directly to all the pipe maker's websites and study what they have to say. Remember, what you're buying has to sound good.
What results have others had with a make of pipes will indicate how good a pipe is. Don't rely on some beginner stating that their instructor said thier pipes are the best souding pipes ever. Instructors don't want to discourage their beginning students by critizing their choice of pipes.

Good luck!

JM

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[> Subject: Re: Buying new pipes. Which ones?


Author:
Scot Kortegaard
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Date Posted: 15:06:16 05/24/03 Sat

>I need a new set! Mc Callum, Dunbar, Shepard,
>Gibson.??
>Which way do I go???

It comes down to sound. If you've had the opportunity to hear these different pipes you've listed, you'd be able to make a choice based on sound. What you're interested in is the drones. The drone sound is the background to everything you do with your chanter. Your chanter can be changed readily, but not your drones. Different makers have different characteristics, some with a big bold drone sound, and others with a more smooth mellow tone.

Of course you'll want to listen to players that you respect, and listen to some good players. Why not go to a highland games, and hang around the grade one and open class judging areas, and have a listen. Then approach the players you like the sound of and ask them what they're playing. When you're listening to them, pay most of your attention to the drone sound. That really is the key. Of course it wouldn't hurt to ask about the chanter and reed combinations too, but mostly the drones. Don't look ... listen.

In the end, it comes down to sound ...... and it's definitely a personal preference. What I like has no bearing. What YOU like matters!

HTH,
Cheers,
Scot.

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[> Subject: Re: Buying new pipes. Which ones?


Author:
Dave McMillin
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Date Posted: 08:22:22 05/27/03 Tue

Yes, look and listen to the drones. Don't stop at asking what brand/model of drones they are playing. Also find out what drone reeds they are using. I am still new to piping but I can tell a big difference in different drone reeds in the same drones. I 've had both Ezeedrones and Ross Omegas in my Fletcher pipes and can hear a big difference.

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[> Subject: Re: Buying new pipes. Which ones?


Author:
Kevin
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Date Posted: 15:06:31 05/28/03 Wed

>I need a new set! Mc Callum, Dunbar, Shepard,
>Gibson.??
>Which way do I go???

So have you made a decision yet?

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[> Subject: best beginner set of pipes??


Author:
Bruce Spencer
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Date Posted: 04:13:10 07/16/03 Wed

I have been playing guitars and keyboards for over 30 years and have always wanted to play bagpipes. I have been looking on ebay and I see quite a difference in price/quality just as in guitars. What would be a 'good' set of pipes for a beginner?...As a guitar player I have a couple Gibson Les Pauls (what I consider to be the best guitars) but I wouldnt recommend a beginner to buy one so please advise me on a good beginner set of pipes. Feel free to email me, thank you.

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[> [> Subject: Re: best beginner set of pipes??


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Chris C.
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Date Posted: 08:39:53 07/23/03 Wed

>I have been playing guitars and keyboards for over 30
>years and have always wanted to play bagpipes. I have
>been looking on ebay and I see quite a difference in
>price/quality just as in guitars.

With bagpipes, quality can vary (especially on Ebay, from what I've read from others' comments), just as it will with guitars, but it's to a greater degree. Most reputable bagpipe brands are excellent in quality. But there are some very inexpensive bagpipes (mostly made in Pakistan, for some reason) out there that are just as hard to get to tune and play right (I've read some horror stories, where some have chanters with the holes in the wrong place) as a real cheap guitar. Imagine trying to play a cheap guitar where some of the frets weren't in the right place.... that's the sort of thing you may be dealing with.

A lot of these cheaper bagpipes get posted on Ebay, sometimes in the guise of 'vintage' or 'quality' instruments.

I know you can get a cheap guitar to play well if you take enough time, i.e. move or rebuild the bridge, dress a few frets, change the tuners, replace a pickup, etc. With a guitar you're maybe talking $50-$100 or so in replacement parts, depending on how far you want to go, sound-wise. Perhaps a bit less in cost playability-wise.....

But an equivalent set of real cheap bagpipes can cost *hundreds* (from what I've read) to rebuild to get up to playable, tunable standards. You're talking a $60 hide bag (one that will actually hold air), new chanter (can cost $100 - $400 or more), a new set of drone reeds ($60 or more), etc.

Like you, I have played guitar for 30 years (bagpipes since 1981), so I know a bit of what I'm talking about.

Find a reputable bagpipe dealer on the internet, or go to a highland games and check out the pipes people are playing.


>What would be a
>'good' set of pipes for a beginner?...As a guitar
>player I have a couple Gibson Les Pauls (what I
>consider to be the best guitars) but I wouldnt
>recommend a beginner to buy one

With bagpipes you have a narrower scope, the real cheap ones are like the cheapest guitars possible, and the name brand bagpipes (Dunbar, Kron, Naill, etc.) are all pretty equivalent, quality wise -- and are all more or less equivalent to a Gibson LP in reputation. Very little 'medium' quality instruments.

Most of my guitars are medium quality instruments. They sound as good as Gibsons, with very little modification. That sort of thing is nearly impossible to do with bagpipes.



>so please advise me on
>a good beginner set of pipes. Feel free to email me,
>thank you.

Hope the info helps.
Chris C.

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