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Subject: Re: What is the Bible passage mentioning "Pipes"?


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Nadav Yogev
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Date Posted: 09:35:17 04/02/02 Tue
In reply to: DK 's message, "What is the Bible passage mentioning "Pipes"?" on 00:01:33 04/02/02 Tue

well, there are some passages in the bible that say pipes, but i dont think they mean pipes as in bagpipes, but as flutes.
im am an israeli, and in the original hebrew bible. in hebrew the words pipes means only the pluming pipes, and the word pipes like in bagpipes is flutes.
but maybe im wrong and it is meaning pipes... :)

Nadav

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R Campbell
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Date Posted: 21:29:22 05/21/02 Tue

>well, there are some passages in the bible that say
>pipes, but i dont think they mean pipes as in
>bagpipes, but as flutes.
>im am an israeli, and in the original hebrew bible. in
>hebrew the words pipes means only the pluming pipes,
>and the word pipes like in bagpipes is flutes.
>but maybe im wrong and it is meaning pipes... :)
>
>Nadav
If you will look at 1st King chapter 1 vs 40, and Jeremiah chapter 48 vs 36 you will find your answer.

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David N. Siegel
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Date Posted: 07:51:27 05/25/02 Sat

>>well, there are some passages in the bible that say
>>pipes, but i dont think they mean pipes as in
>>bagpipes, but as flutes.
>>im am an israeli, and in the original hebrew bible. in
>>hebrew the words pipes means only the pluming pipes,
>>and the word pipes like in bagpipes is flutes.
>>but maybe im wrong and it is meaning pipes... :)
>>
>>Nadav
> If you will look at 1st King chapter 1 vs 40, and
>Jeremiah chapter 48 vs 36 you will find your answer.

Nadav is correct.

The word used in Isaiah 30:29, Ist Kings 1:40, and Jeremiah 48:36 is CHalil (CH = guttural as in Scottish Loch), and mean flute. Chalil goes all around the ancient middle east from Akkadia to Babylon to Ethiopia to Aram, meaning flute, something like a reed, or wood, hollowed out, with holes. No reference to hide bag (CHemet). "bchalilim machlilim" is often translated "piped with pipes," but even in English pipe as a musical instrument for hundreds of years was more likely to mean 1) flute like, or 2)a double reed instrument such as the pibcorn or crumhorn. All bagless.

Regards from a Galilean piper,
David N. Siegel
Kfar Kishor
The Galilee, ISRAEL

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