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Date Posted: 06:00:36 07/03/08 Thu
Author: Cathy
Subject: FYI to Kassie just to let you know I never once posted that Blair treats Todd as badly as he treats her. I believe it was Heather who posted that, but I for sure know it wasn't me. You must have misread and you are mistaken when you attribute that comment to me.

Although you seem excited at the thought of Blair moving onto another pairing with John, I hope you can understand how I, as a longtime T&B fan, am extremely disappointed that their latest reunion barely lasted at all, and that they are now moving back into the same old pattern of constant hatred scenes that we've been watching for 2 years straight. I had hoped for a new take on Todd and Blair's relationship, so for me, it's very disheartening.

I'm sorry you're not working, Kassie. I've followed your career since the 80s and enjoyed you on Guiding Light too. I'm sure you welcome the time off though. Have a great summer!

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[> Yeah that was me, because she does. They both treat each other like crap. Blair slapps Todd around and sleeps with his enemies and Todd lies and manipulates. The Todd and Blair dynamic is compelely toxic and completely entertaining. Blair without Todd is boring and vice versa. -- Heather, 06:27:18 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> I thought it was you, Heather. Thanks for clearing that up. When I saw Kassie call me out by name, I was like - HUH? LOL. -- Cathy, 06:30:03 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> Heather you are bad mistaking Blair never treaated Todd like he treats her,Todd does;nt know how to love and appreciate a good lady like Blair.Blair is the best.i can;t wait until Blair and John makes HOT MONKEY SEX..i hope she never goes back to Todd sorry ASS. -- shelia, 10:32:27 07/03/08 Thu


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[> no way ae blair and todd alike. todd is psysco, he threw his daughter down a flight of stairs and now he is kidnapping a girl he gang raped, todd iis psycotic, blair is not., -- kathy, 07:04:42 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> Blair slept with Spencer to get infomation, She with held Asa's heart medication, she lied about Max being Asa's son, she lied about Todd being the father of Jack, she is keeping Todd from the kids- I 'd say she is pretty close to being psycho herself. I just wish Blair would do something interesting. I really hope they are not giving Kassie the FM treatment, but I suspect they are. If they bring in another love interest for Todd, I think Kassie is out. -- Heather, 07:13:45 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> Keeping the sick bastard we are currently seeing on our screen today away from the children is the sanest thing Blair has ever done. There is nothing psycho about a mother protecting her children from a man who would think nothing of holding his rape victim hostage while he is mentally abusing her in his home rather then lift a finger to put his family back together. -- S.Luva, 07:21:31 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> I don't know I get the feeling that Todd is desparate. Would he be holding Marty like this if he was still in his kids life? Maybe but maybe not. I think that Todd should be allowed supervised visitation until he can get himself under control, but cutting a child of from their father- that is just cruel. What Todd did to Starr was an accident. I am not going to go into the Cole stuff- personally I think Cole deserved it. The stuff with Sam was bad, but again Todd didn't intend for Sam to get hurt- I blame Adrianna on that one. -- Heather, 07:41:36 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> I actually also think that someone (Todd? Blair?) should take steps to give Todd (at this point) supervised visitation with the kids. If Starr doesn't want to see him or talk to him, that is her choice since she is almost an adult anyway. Sam can't speak for himself, but Jack for sure wants to see his father. As long as it's supervised, I think he should be allowed to do so. Todd doesn't seem to show any interest in trying to see the two boys, though. It's hard to believe he's just given in. -- Cathy, 07:55:01 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> The judge gave temp custody to Blair, there is nothing that Todd can do without Blair's consent. He has to wait until the trial. -- Heather, 08:09:57 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Forgot about that. I wonder if Blair is going to formally adopt Sam. I think she should. Can she do it without Todd's consent? Doubtful. So what happens to Sam? Will this story thread be followed up or just forgotten? -- Cathy, 08:16:25 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> If Blair is awarded full custody then she can adopt Sam without Todd's consent. -- Heather, 08:20:05 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well I hope she puts a priority on that - above having sex with John. -- Cathy, 08:28:17 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Todd is hiding Marty at his house while everyone thinks she is dead. Don't think he needs to be in charge of any kids. -- tonya, 10:25:42 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Todd is desperate? Todd is always desperate but this time what is he desperate for not his family that's much I'm sure of. -- S.Luva, 07:56:34 07/03/08 Thu

Todd isn't even trying to get supervised visitation or any kind of visitation for that matter... he shouldn't get to see the children supervised or otherwise UNTIL he gets his self under control not prior to that..he hasn't made one singular effort to do fix any problem...what he has chosen to do instead is kidnap his rape victim..fill her head full of lies..I don't see what benefit any of the children are suppose to garner from exposer to such a animal.

Cruel would be letting impressionable young boys see an out of control man running rough shot over ever everyone in their family and letting them continue to live with him that way... establishing that this is the way men treat women and their family...

Adrianna wasn't the one who took the baby out of his home and placed him in the front passenger seat of her car without a car seat.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I feel terrible for Sam and Jack - innocent victims in all of this. I feel especially terrible for Jack, since Sam is really too young to feel the full extent of missing his father. Poor Jack did absolutely NOTHING to cause any of this and yet he is probably suffering the most out of all of them. If he wants to see Todd, I think he should be able to, albeit supervised. Has anyone even asked him? Todd is still his father. -- Cathy, 08:14:25 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I know. Jack probably misses his father. I would love to see some Jack and Todd interaction. As much as I can't agree what Todd is doing to Marty, I can't agree with what Blair is doing to Todd either. -- Heather, 08:22:18 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> The last time Todd saw Jack he tried to manipulate him he didn't act like a concern father. I'm sure Jack misses his dad but his dad isn't doing what he ought to be doing to have any kind of relationship with him. So while this might hurt Jack now it's in his best interest he isn't hanging around someone who has no self control. IMO. -- S.Luva, 08:33:33 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Poor Jack. I hope someone tells him about the divorce before he finds out some other way. I also hope he doesn't have to be exposed to Blair's romance with John so soon. It would be so confusing to him since his parents were happy one day and divorced the next with mom moving on instantaneously. I still say there would be no harm in allowing Todd at least one supervised visit with Jack. Self control would not be an issue, and if it was, they could cut off the visits. -- Cathy, 08:49:36 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd did the same thing that Blair did when she moved back into the Penthouse- only Blair was more sucessful. See Todd and Blair are the same equally messed-up and equally crazy. -- Heather, 09:05:02 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Both Todd AND Blair have long used the children as pawns. This is nothing new. -- Cathy, 09:08:29 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Is there some indication that Blair is using the children as pawns? -- sluva, 09:24:05 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Not currently. But wait a minute. I can tell this story with my eyes closed. They never write anything different. Certainly in the past Blair has used the children as pawns, as has Todd. No denying that. -- Cathy, 09:40:32 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think I'll just wait to see if that in fact happens. -- s.luva, 10:38:26 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> good plan, but don't you already know deep down? It always ends up the same way. Over and over and over again. Todd lies, Blair sleeps with random man. Todd begs, Blair begs, Todd calls Blair names. T&B use kids as pawns. T&B have anger sex. Todd calls Blair more names. T&B admit their love and reunite for a few eps. Whole cycle starts again. Zzzzzzzz. -- Cathy, 10:43:19 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I've never seen Blair sleep with a random man it's usually someone she knows eight out of ten times they look good nekkid..I'm not a T&B fan so I'm nothing less then glad they got divorced. I get my jollies where I can get them. -- s.luva, 11:06:36 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Totally understand if you're not a fan why you're glad they got divorced. Do you look forward to the same old storyline with T&B? I'm gonna guess you don't. That's one thing we have in common. Blair sleeps with the first guy who looks at her after she breaks up with Todd. Never fails. -- Cathy, 12:16:00 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd and Blair are not equally crazy. They are not one in the same. -- S.Luva, 09:20:39 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Blair is nothing like Todd,i would,nt let Todd Have the children you seen what he did to Starr,i would;nt let Todd take care of my dog. -- shelia, 10:54:27 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> ITA I don't think Todd shoukd see ANY of his kids right now He is a freakin psycho. I wouldn't trust him w/a canary never mind a young umpressionable child. Besides which he NEVER really showed any interest in Jack, he hardly paid him any attention, Sam also for that matter once he WON him. Only Blair showed him LOVE & she took care of him not Todd. Todd was only all about Starr. Ownership & possession is all he knows. Doesn't know how to love anyone but himself. JMO -- Terry C, 09:58:13 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> He isn't making any noise about seeing or wanting to be with his children. Kids don't need to be subjected to this kind of madness on purpose. -- s.luva, 11:12:42 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> The only reason Blair sleep with Spencer was to help Todd stupid ass.If you want to bring up what Blair did let bring Todd up He was the cause of Blair losing her baby pushed her off the roof and raped Marty and him and David told Blair Jack was dead,so before you start pointing fingers at Blair you need to look at what all Todd has done,he sure ain;t no angie.i think Blair ROCKS. -- shelia, 10:47:41 07/03/08 Thu


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[> Both Todd & Blair are guilty of treating each other like crap at times. I think it's their idea of "testing" their mate---seeing just how far they can push the envelope w/ one another. It's all part of their T&B Mating Dance. It always has been. This time isn't any different. Let the countdown to our T&B Reunion begin---I think it will be here sooner than anyone predicts! It was already being set up between T&B during the divorce paper scenes @ Todd's house. First, the T&B/John/Marty quad then our T&B reunion!! -- LH, 09:22:50 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> Well one thing those scenes definitely established was that T&B still love each other. That's a fact. I am just not personally up for the same old scenes of hatred. Bitchslutwhorebimbo names from Todd and Blair sleeping with the first man who looks at her. I'm weary of it. Why not something different? -- Cathy, 09:56:13 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> ITA w/you on that score Cathy. But TPTB don't seem(big surprise) to give a dam what we think, or what we're SICK TO DEATH OF. I feel like we've been watching re-runs when it comes to T&B for what about 5yrs or so if not more. Put me to sleep!!!! -- Terry C, 10:02:33 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Well I'm glad that at least a couple of people know where I'm coming from (TerryC and Heather). I just call em as I see em, and I see this as ridiculous. Not up for the same ole crap. Either give the T&B relationship a new angle for a change or do not allow these characters to have scenes together and give them independent stories that are DIFFERENT from what we've seen a million times before. Pick one or the other. Constant reruns doesn't do it for me. -- Cathy, 10:10:21 07/03/08 Thu

Strangely enough, the only thing that interests me at this point is the Todd/Cole interaction. I don't even like Cole, but at least it is a different twist that he's deciding to tell Todd about the pregnancy. Now THAT is something different!


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[> Ok Heather..i am calling u out!! U r so delusional to think Blair treats Todd just as bad as Todd treats Blair. I dont think so girl. He is and will alwyas be more hateful to her than she will EVER be with him. Go back and watch ur old Todd and Blair tapes. He is the DEVIL. -- Claude, 10:05:31 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> No way Todd and Blair treat each other like crap. It is the same. Remeber Blair left Todd to die on death row all alone. Todd and Blair are equally bad in their treatment of each other. -- Heather, 10:14:55 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> What do you mean she left him to die all alone? I could have sworn Blair bringing the children by to see him..I could have swore it was her that begged Spencer to save him..she put him there.. his lies did. -- s.luva, 10:35:04 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> Not speaking for Heather, but she is likely referring to Blair saying that the sooner Todd hurried up and died, the better. She brought the children by because Starr insisted on seeing her father. She begged Spencer to save Todd only after she saw Margaret - proof positive that he didn't kill her. Blair didn't believe him on faith, just when there was solid proof. If not for the kids, she surely would have left him to die alone. She was in bed with Spencer. -- Cathy, 10:49:39 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Why should she believe him on faith when he swore on the lives of his children he didn't know Margaret was back in town and he certainly didn't do anything to could be misconstrued as trying t o kill her he didn't have any faith in Blair to tell her the truth so I really couldn't careless if he died alone. The point was she did bring the children to see him. She wasn't in bed with Spencer they were both standing in the viewing room. -- s.luva, 11:27:24 07/03/08 Thu


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[> Well i would lose faith in him too if he continued to lie and hurt me. Heather..NO DAMN WAY r these two equal in hurting eachother. U gotta be on glue or something!! LOL!! -- Claude, 10:57:43 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> Claude...you are on fire today huh? -- s.luva, 11:28:49 07/03/08 Thu


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[> LOL...maybe Careen. But like come on..i think some fans talk rubbish. It is CLEAR that Todd is more evil and hurts Blair alot more than she does him. END OF STORY!! -- Claude, 11:36:44 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> Everything is opinion, Claude. Doesn't make one opinion more valid than the other. Would you like it if I said your opinion was rubbish? -- Cathy, 12:14:08 07/03/08 Thu


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[> Yeah u r right Cathy. But it is true..some certain fans are just ..um...how do i say it...too extreme. There is no more story for Todd and Blair as a couple. They have done it all. -- Claude, 13:07:23 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> I agree with you, Claude. Love em or hate em, no one wants to watch the same storyline repeated yet again. 15 times is more than enough. Todd and Blair shouldn't have any more scenes together at all. -- Cathy, 13:39:00 07/03/08 Thu


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[> Exactly. OLTL needs to kill this couple already and have them move on. -- Claude, 16:07:02 07/03/08 Thu


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