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Date Posted: 07:41:36 07/03/08 Thu
Author: Heather
Subject: I don't know I get the feeling that Todd is desparate. Would he be holding Marty like this if he was still in his kids life? Maybe but maybe not. I think that Todd should be allowed supervised visitation until he can get himself under control, but cutting a child of from their father- that is just cruel. What Todd did to Starr was an accident. I am not going to go into the Cole stuff- personally I think Cole deserved it. The stuff with Sam was bad, but again Todd didn't intend for Sam to get hurt- I blame Adrianna on that one.
In reply to: S.Luva 's message, "Keeping the sick bastard we are currently seeing on our screen today away from the children is the sanest thing Blair has ever done. There is nothing psycho about a mother protecting her children from a man who would think nothing of holding his rape victim hostage while he is mentally abusing her in his home rather then lift a finger to put his family back together." on 07:21:31 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> I actually also think that someone (Todd? Blair?) should take steps to give Todd (at this point) supervised visitation with the kids. If Starr doesn't want to see him or talk to him, that is her choice since she is almost an adult anyway. Sam can't speak for himself, but Jack for sure wants to see his father. As long as it's supervised, I think he should be allowed to do so. Todd doesn't seem to show any interest in trying to see the two boys, though. It's hard to believe he's just given in. -- Cathy, 07:55:01 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> The judge gave temp custody to Blair, there is nothing that Todd can do without Blair's consent. He has to wait until the trial. -- Heather, 08:09:57 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Forgot about that. I wonder if Blair is going to formally adopt Sam. I think she should. Can she do it without Todd's consent? Doubtful. So what happens to Sam? Will this story thread be followed up or just forgotten? -- Cathy, 08:16:25 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> If Blair is awarded full custody then she can adopt Sam without Todd's consent. -- Heather, 08:20:05 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Well I hope she puts a priority on that - above having sex with John. -- Cathy, 08:28:17 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Todd is hiding Marty at his house while everyone thinks she is dead. Don't think he needs to be in charge of any kids. -- tonya, 10:25:42 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> Todd is desperate? Todd is always desperate but this time what is he desperate for not his family that's much I'm sure of. -- S.Luva, 07:56:34 07/03/08 Thu

Todd isn't even trying to get supervised visitation or any kind of visitation for that matter... he shouldn't get to see the children supervised or otherwise UNTIL he gets his self under control not prior to that..he hasn't made one singular effort to do fix any problem...what he has chosen to do instead is kidnap his rape victim..fill her head full of lies..I don't see what benefit any of the children are suppose to garner from exposer to such a animal.

Cruel would be letting impressionable young boys see an out of control man running rough shot over ever everyone in their family and letting them continue to live with him that way... establishing that this is the way men treat women and their family...

Adrianna wasn't the one who took the baby out of his home and placed him in the front passenger seat of her car without a car seat.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I feel terrible for Sam and Jack - innocent victims in all of this. I feel especially terrible for Jack, since Sam is really too young to feel the full extent of missing his father. Poor Jack did absolutely NOTHING to cause any of this and yet he is probably suffering the most out of all of them. If he wants to see Todd, I think he should be able to, albeit supervised. Has anyone even asked him? Todd is still his father. -- Cathy, 08:14:25 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I know. Jack probably misses his father. I would love to see some Jack and Todd interaction. As much as I can't agree what Todd is doing to Marty, I can't agree with what Blair is doing to Todd either. -- Heather, 08:22:18 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> The last time Todd saw Jack he tried to manipulate him he didn't act like a concern father. I'm sure Jack misses his dad but his dad isn't doing what he ought to be doing to have any kind of relationship with him. So while this might hurt Jack now it's in his best interest he isn't hanging around someone who has no self control. IMO. -- S.Luva, 08:33:33 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Poor Jack. I hope someone tells him about the divorce before he finds out some other way. I also hope he doesn't have to be exposed to Blair's romance with John so soon. It would be so confusing to him since his parents were happy one day and divorced the next with mom moving on instantaneously. I still say there would be no harm in allowing Todd at least one supervised visit with Jack. Self control would not be an issue, and if it was, they could cut off the visits. -- Cathy, 08:49:36 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd did the same thing that Blair did when she moved back into the Penthouse- only Blair was more sucessful. See Todd and Blair are the same equally messed-up and equally crazy. -- Heather, 09:05:02 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Both Todd AND Blair have long used the children as pawns. This is nothing new. -- Cathy, 09:08:29 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Is there some indication that Blair is using the children as pawns? -- sluva, 09:24:05 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Not currently. But wait a minute. I can tell this story with my eyes closed. They never write anything different. Certainly in the past Blair has used the children as pawns, as has Todd. No denying that. -- Cathy, 09:40:32 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think I'll just wait to see if that in fact happens. -- s.luva, 10:38:26 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> good plan, but don't you already know deep down? It always ends up the same way. Over and over and over again. Todd lies, Blair sleeps with random man. Todd begs, Blair begs, Todd calls Blair names. T&B use kids as pawns. T&B have anger sex. Todd calls Blair more names. T&B admit their love and reunite for a few eps. Whole cycle starts again. Zzzzzzzz. -- Cathy, 10:43:19 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I've never seen Blair sleep with a random man it's usually someone she knows eight out of ten times they look good nekkid..I'm not a T&B fan so I'm nothing less then glad they got divorced. I get my jollies where I can get them. -- s.luva, 11:06:36 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Totally understand if you're not a fan why you're glad they got divorced. Do you look forward to the same old storyline with T&B? I'm gonna guess you don't. That's one thing we have in common. Blair sleeps with the first guy who looks at her after she breaks up with Todd. Never fails. -- Cathy, 12:16:00 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Todd and Blair are not equally crazy. They are not one in the same. -- S.Luva, 09:20:39 07/03/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Blair is nothing like Todd,i would,nt let Todd Have the children you seen what he did to Starr,i would;nt let Todd take care of my dog. -- shelia, 10:54:27 07/03/08 Thu


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