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Date Posted: 06:04:17 05/22/08 Thu
Author: lucy
Subject: I guess I just do not see what others see. In my opinion, I do not see tptb pushing the point that Todd is responsible that Starr&Cole having unprotected sex. Everyone has their own perspective, but from I have been seeing Blair is dealing with her own guilt, but at the same time, she is determined to make things right with Starr. Also, Starr&Cole did admit to each other that they were so wrong for not using protection. I do not see Blair&Starr blaming Todd for Starr running off to have unprotected sex.
In reply to: Lexi 's message, "I usually lurk but I just want to say the following. I don't think anyone is saying Blair is an irresponsible parent. They are simply saying that Todd is not responsible for Starr and Cole having unprotected sex. They (Sole), and only they, are responsible. Todd has a lot of blame to bear in this but Sole having unprotected sex is not part of it." on 05:25:17 05/22/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think it's the "IF...THEN" phrasology the characters keep using. IF Todd had not suddenly said they were moving, THEN Sole would not have had sex AND none of this would have happened. I take issue with that. Sole had a choice no matter where Todd said they were moving. The "IF...THEN" phrasology strongly implies that it's all Todd's fault. Simply. not. true. -- Cathy, 10:32:26 05/22/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Blair did NOT say that at all yesterday, I do not know if you watched yesterday or read viewers' recaps, but this is what Blair said, and I quote, "When your dad started on those stories about moving us all to Hawaii, I should have stopped him right there. Otherwise, MAYBE you wouldn't have run off with Cole and ended up pregnant." There was no IF...THEN. Blair PUT the BLAME on her NOT Todd. I am not getting why people are taking what Blair actually said yesterday out of context. I just don't get it. -- lucy, 10:48:31 05/22/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> I didn't see the show yesterday, lucy. I know in the past Blair has said directly to Todd, "if you hadn't wanted to move us all to Hawaii, Starr and Cole would not have gone to that house to MAKE LOOOOVE." Also, Todd himself has said to Starr, "if I hadn't wanted to move us to Hawaii, you and Cole would not have gone to the house that night, am I right?" Sorry I can't provide exact eps and airdates, but trust me, this stuff was said. Don't be upset though - it's just a soap opera. -- Cathy, 10:54:04 05/22/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Trust me, I am not upset, Cathy, in fact, far from it, I am confused by the spin some are putting on Blair right now, but I am not upset. I have talked this subject to death so I moving on from it. Everyone has a right to their opinion. -- lucy, 11:08:27 05/22/08 Thu


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Yes, lucy. Definitely everyone has a right to their opinion. :) FYI, here's a quote from Blair from the 4-23 episode (to Todd who is talking about seeing Sole naked in bed)... Blair: "Starr and Cole wouldn't have even considered making love if you hadn't...none of that would have happened if you hadn't told the whole fam we were moving to Hawaii." -- Cathy, 12:49:22 05/22/08 Thu

And here's a quote from Todd to Starr on the 4/28 episode:

Todd: "I can't believe I'm going to say this...what happened between you and Cole probably wouldn't have happened if I hadn't insisted we all move to Hawaii. Am I right?"

Those are just two examples of why I suspect some people have the impression that the show is suggesting that Sole sex is Todd's fault. IMO, it's wrong to suggest such a thing. Sole made their own choice, and Hawaii or no Hawaii, Todd isn't the cause of what they did. Yet the dialogue has, in the past, quite clearly stated that it is.


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